Clearly my understanding of this is that he is a Civil Servant GS15 pay grade, which correlates to a General role in the matter of protocol, but what difference that makes to any of these discussions I have no idea. This absolutely infers he had access to very sensitive information as per required for his role and remit, but also does nothing to solidify his position in comparable roles in the military, who would simply say “who?”.
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If I’m honest this is my feeling too.
Whatever Grusch has uncovered and I believe he probably has uncovered something* unless the US government wants the public to know, they ain’t ever going to know.
*if I had to guess, hitherto unknown ‘black sites’ operating outside of any congressional oversight is almost a certainty…… but that doesn’t mean aliens - could be nothing more than the usual dodgy military goings on that happen behind closed doors.
But whether it is 3 breasted aliens from Mars or just the military being the military I seriously doubt any of us are going to be told via a congressional hearing but I still find it all quite interesting.
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No, it means he had access to information to do his job, not specifically "sensitive information" nor anything relating to security clearance. And arguably there are higher grades than GS pay scales, so he's certainly not at the top of the food chain like some forums members like to believe.
Given little green men in ships (or just ET ships) have allegedly been crashing into the whole planet and not just in USA's own backyard, if it was a cover-up then it would be global, involving multiple governments, which just makes even more unlikely.
As been said multiple times in this thread, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", and so far that hasn't happened.
We're still none the wiser over three years on from the Pentagon "leaks" and released statements/reports from that time; i suspect we'll still be in the same position a decade from now.
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The US has an abundance of agencies each with their own agendas and budgets. It seems they don't always sing from the same page, either
It's not outside the realms of possibility that some legislators feel they are being kept at arms length, and want more oversight of what's going on.It's a somewhat theatrical approach, but perhaps this is an attempt to redress that balance.
But ultimately it could be little different to the inquiry over Boris's Covid parties. Politicians with agendas of their own trying to take back some control or expose some dodgy dealing in a way that benefits them politically.
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What if they say its neither?
To listen to the statements of the three men. Grusch is the only person to have made claims of having evidence to prove the US government of having possession of alien tech and biology and also criminality within US government offices to protect. Oh, and also claims to be privy to foreign nations top secret alien programs to boot. Possibly air force Majors are issued with mind control devices, but these are big claims.
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If its proven its neither then I am wrong in thinking there are hidden SAP programs and skunkworks projects working on classified craft.
Agreed. I think it would be near impossible for any government to keep the existence of recovered alien craft secret. To hide programs actively studying and reverse engineering interstellar craft capable of the feats cliamed just seems impossibly unlikely.
Maybe if someone claimed to have evidence a government came across an ancient craft found buried that was being kept unseen, in a secure bunker until a time come when we are technologically advanced enough to go poking it with a stick without blowing a hole in the earth.
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Yes I think this is exactly what’s going on.
But not just David grusch, I think there’s likely maybe a dozen people involved in the scam tops - anymore than that and it fails.
I think it’ll come out eventually, one way or another and it will be very embarrassing.
That’s not true lots of people who worked with Grusch have also made the same claims. Many of them have gone down the same whistle-blower process or are going down it right now. Some of there names have been given before in this thread. Lots of people are confirming Grusch is credible. Grusch hold : Active Top Secret/SCI with CI & LS Polygraph security clearance giving his access. How do you explain that level of security clearance which only goes to very high ranking people? Grusch did have access to foreign top secret information via the 5Eyes alliance as you know. Why do you keep spreading so much misinformation and false statements?
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO06/20230726/116282/HHRG-118-GO06-Bio-GruschD-20230726.pdf which proves Jigger is completely wrong. Grusch hold : Active Top Secret/SCI with CI & LS Polygraph security clearance. Grush was NGA lead for UAP issues. Not only did he have access to Sensitive Compartment Information and Special access programs. He was tasked with looking into those and reviewing the SAPS.
Knapp and Corbell do seem to be doing pretty well for themselves… Who knows, but the claims are extraordinary, sightings numerous so the evidence should be staggering.
It is true Pottsey. Out of the three men only Grusch made such claims.
i've missed this bit, can you point me to a quote/link? if he has made that claim then, personally, i think he's most certainly leaning towards being a full blown loon/chancer.
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I don't think there's anybody here who doesn't know/think the USA have secret projects on classified craft, that's a given, the problem comes with non humans flying it.
I was implying a Major would likely need a mind control device to get that information.
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Fair enough @Pottsey, he may actually know something - seems he gained rank of Major in the USAF, worked as a junior professor before doing a private sector gig and then worked NRA/NGO to "Colonel Equivalent" and USAF reserves gaining top secret and SCI clearance whilst living in lieutenant colonel quarters (if i've read the O4 in O5 billet part correctly).
Technically still only a Major though
Out of interest, what is that document and who produced it? Was that a CV Grusch handed over in the hearings or something the hearings produced?
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oh, ok. it read as though this was something Grusch had claimed.
It wouldn’t be that surprising if Grusch made claims of being in possession of a mind control device. Lol
only if you've already decided all his claims are completely pants on head daft.