Pentagon releases UFO footage

jigger said:
No, I thinks he’s just full of it.
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but several people from the senate/skiff meetings have said that some of his info seems potentially valid. so while you may think he's full of it, those that have seen his 'evidence' don't or at least don't think all of it is bs.
jigger said:
How about you?
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posted my thoughts numerous times. absolutely no belief in aliens/inter dimensional thingies/whatever else nonsense has been spouted. but, black site operations or whatever soemone wants to call them, yea i could well believe that.
 
Thekwango said:
but several people from the senate/skiff meetings have said that some of his info seems potentially valid. so while you may think he's full of it, those that have seen his 'evidence' don't or at least don't think all of it is bs.

posted my thoughts numerous times. absolutely no belief in aliens/inter dimensional thingies/whatever else nonsense has been spouted. but, black site operations or whatever soemone wants to call them, yea i could well believe that.
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Well put, I am glad someone else gets it.
 
Thekwango said:
but several people from the senate/skiff meetings have said that some of his info seems potentially valid. so while you may think he's full of it, those that have seen his 'evidence' don't or at least don't think all of it is bs.

posted my thoughts numerous times. absolutely no belief in aliens/inter dimensional thingies/whatever else nonsense has been spouted. but, black site operations or whatever soemone wants to call them, yea i could well believe that.
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Those aren’t the most qualified people at all, especially seeing most are politicians with axes to grind. What the people within SKIF say or think is largely irrelevant.
 
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jigger said:
Those aren’t the most qualified people at all, especially seeming most are politicians with axes to grind. What the people within SKIF say or think is largely irrelevant.
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oh ok. again we'll have to agree to disagree. i'll take the word of those charged with investigating gruschs findings.

Edit: removed what the arsey comment. Sorry.
 
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jigger said:
Grusch did refuse, both he and the director said so.

What the SKIF people think is largely irrelevant however, if what was revealed was so disturbing then surely a public enquiry or enforcement agency will get involved.
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Grusch did not refuse. He did what he promised and handed over the evidence including those top-secret program names, agencies and people involved and locations. Why are you saying he did not when everyone can see he did?

You seem to be saying surly if its true an agency would get involved. How have you missed that any agency did get involved, did do an investigation and confirmed most of his claims are valid and have merit.

The ICIG are the ones that conducts audits, investigations, inspections, anti-Fraud and so on across the Intelligence Community. They are a specialised team with security access and training for dealing with sensitive matter involving the Intelligence Community. They went into the departments interviewing everyone named. You wanted confirmation, there is your confirmation. The ICIG are backing Grusch and they say they verified a lot of his evidence.

The ICIG are the qualified people you want looking into this. If they say many of his claims are real and verified I am inclined to believe them over an conspiracy theorist like yourself.

The ICIG have a history of getting things right. You have a history of making things up and getting things wrong. Why should I believe you over the ICIG?
 
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Thekwango said:
oh ok. again we'll have to agree to disagree. i'll take the word of those charged with investigating gruschs findings over some random try hard on the internet.
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Oh, salty.

Sure then, you believe the words of politicians, that believe the tails of Grusch. I’ll wait for the science community, if they’re ever allowed this evidence*
 
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Screeeech said:
How do we know that these are the same claims (the reverse engineering of non-human spaceships) being discussed in the meetings behind closed doors?

How can you know that? Were you at those meetings? Have you seen the official transcripts of those meetings, what was discussed and the outcomes?

How do you know?
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No one said anything about reverse engineering non-human spaceships in the complaint. Did you even read the whistle-blower statement I quoted for you? There was nothing about aliens or non-human spaceships in it. The claim was reverse engineering recovered UAP's in an illegal SAP project with missing money and threats against anyone try to expose them. That could be something as simple as a crashed classified human made enemy craft being recovered and reverse engineered.

The meeting was published on the governments calendar along with what the meeting was about. Press where waiting outside after the meeting with almost every committee member giving separate statements to the press. I also followed the statements the committee members made in the following days as well as to the press. Many of those quotes, video links of the press statements have been provided in links and across post over the past days. I also gave you a while back a direct copy of official government statements Grusch made about his whistle-blower complaint and what it contains linking to the government official files. You can find all the links, videos, official documents and statement by using the search option for this thread. I provided many of them over the past 3 days, so how can you ask me how I know.

The fact is you where wrong in saying Grusch had no evidence and was all talk and all BS. He handed over some evidence which consisted of top-secret program names, agencies, people involved and locations. Something you said he would never do as if its false information he will go to jail. You backed the wrong horse and said it was all BS and all talk with no evidence. Well its not looking like that any more since the ICIG investigation verified and confirmed much of the evidence was handed over and real and so did the SKIF.

I have yet to see any valid reason from you why we should not believe what the ICIG or the SKIF Committee are saying. If Grusch was all BS talk with no evidence that would have first came out in the ICIG investigation and then came out again in the SKIF Committee. How do you explain both of them saying the evidence is real and much of it verified? Why would they said that if its not true?
 
jigger said:
Oh, salty.

Sure then, you believe the words of politicians, that believe the tails of Grusch. I’ll wait for the science community, if they’re ever allowed this evidence*
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You mean like the ICIG who where allowed the evidence and confirmed it? Not politicians but the ICIG who are the best people in the world to investigate something like this.
 
jigger said:
Oh, salty.

Sure then, you believe the words of politicians, that believe the tails of Grusch. I’ll wait for the science community, if they’re ever allowed this evidence*
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My bad sorry - I genuinely meant that as a joke. Sounded funnier when I typed it. On re-reading it does come across a bit more arsey than I intended. Sorry dude.
 
Pottsey said:
You mean like the ICIG who where allowed the evidence and confirmed it? Not politicians but the ICIG who are the best people in the world to investigate something like this.
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So they have actual physical evidence to examine? That needs to be handed over to laboratories and science community. Hold tight people, the nonsense could soon be over…
 
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Thekwango said:
nope, you've still your tinfoil hat on. maybe you feel like you're covertly having the pee taken out of you but i certainly don't.
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To be fair I think the whole thing is a scam/hoax, so I’m not concerned about what anyone else thinks.

I just think it’s interesting watching someone concoct this nonsense - whilst listening to the mental illogical arguments people come up with, to try and sustain it.
Thekwango said:
but several people from the senate/skiff meetings have said that some of his info seems potentially valid.
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Slippery slope fallacy.

One of the biggest scams ever, was entirely propped up by politicians, senior military folk who all went around saying it was legit.

The company name was Theranos, and people went to jail.
 
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Confirmation that what Grusch is true: "Did you tell Grusch you had seen an alien spacecraft?" "Yes" "ok thanks. I should ask a follow up question. Does an alien spacecraft exist and if so where can we find it?" "It's doesn't exist" "ok thanks"

That about covers the 'some of it checks out' for me :)
 
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Screeeech said:
David Grusch’s original interview claimed the US government were reverse engineering alien space ships.

(It’s what got this whole thing started)
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Keep saying that as much as you like it doesn't make it true. It started a good few years before that and you know it.

This is the original claim that started everything in terms of David. This is the claim that appears to have some truth behind it going by the statements from the SKIF and ICIG.
"I was informed, in the course of my official duties, of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access to those additional read-on’s."

The original claim doesn't mention aliens or spacecraft as you can see.


keyser van someone said:
Confirmation that what Grusch is true: "Did you tell Grusch you had seen an alien spacecraft?" "Yes" "ok thanks. I should ask a follow up question. Does an alien spacecraft exist and if so where can we find it?" "It's doesn't exist" "ok thanks"
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What are load of nonsense you are posting that is the complete opposite to what happened. 40+ people where interviewed and instead of saying it didn't exist. They said said yes it exists at this location. Even better is they got locations and contractors names and are planning field trips to those locations. https://twitter.com/realannapaulina/status/1745931131248153027
Be it a human made UAP like I think or an Alien like you seem to want it to be doesn't really matter at this point.
 
Screeeech said:
To be fair I think the whole thing is a scam/hoax, so I’m not concerned about what anyone else thinks.
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And that’s a fair enough opinion to have but surely then the best way for that to be proven is for other folk to see Gruschs evidence?
Screeeech said:
Slippery slope fallacy.

One of the biggest scams ever, was entirely propped up by politicians, senior military folk who all went around saying it was legit.

The company name was Theranos, and people went to jail.
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And I imagine the same will happen here, with these investigations i.e. people will go to jail if they’re found out or be lying or at least be exposed as liars.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
@Pottsey
Sorry to do this but this was on the 3rd TMZ video.
This is Grusch talking about Interdimensional beings when you said he didn't.

This is the second video I've linked where you said he didn't mention Spacecraft, Aliens and Interdimensional beings and they are there, he said it over both excerpts.


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Sorry for the slow response. I seem to be interpreting that differently. Based on the Congress briefing I thought that was a discussion between physicists about String Theory and the holographic principle. Not about Interdimensional beings. Further in the conversation when asked is there any documentation which I took to mean evidence behind it, they they said it was just a theoretical discussion. The impression I got is a group of physicists talking about theoretical possibilities.
 
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