Pentagon releases UFO footage

Felon said:
Don't obfuscate it - keep it simple.


3 Mins, 30 seconds.

Ross Coulthart: When you say crash retrieval program, what do you mean?
David Grusch: These are retrieving, non-human origin technical vehicles, call it spacecraft if you will, non-human exotic origin vehicles, which have either landed or crashed.
Ross Coulthart: We have spacecraft, from another species?
David Grusch: We do.
Ross Coulthart: How many?
David Grusch: Quite a number
Ross Coulthart: You're kidding!
David Grusch: No.

What do you think David Grusch (the main whistleblower and main person who kicked off all of this) is referring to? what is he describing to Ross?

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That doesn't answer why it started through congressional process though which was my question to you.

The wrong answer you keep giving is still the wrong answer, whether you post 1 line or link 50 video soundbites.

You can't just keep posting PB from the MLE.
 
Scrutinize said:
The wrong answer you keep giving is still the wrong answer,
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I haven't given any answers, I'm asking a question.

The question is - what do you, think about what David Grusch is saying in those videos.

Not congressional waffle, politicians tying themselves in knots or acronyms nobody understands, - I'm asking, what you think about the claims David Grusch is making, and how you interpret them.
 
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Felon said:
I haven't given any answers, I'm asking a question.

The question is - what do you, think about what David Grusch is saying in those videos.

Not congressional waffle, politicians tying themselves in knots or acronyms nobody understands, - I'm asking, what you think about the claims David Grusch is making, and how you interpret them.
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I challenged your credibility and asked a series of questions, which you haven't been able to answer because, all you were/are posting was/is conjecture and speculation, overlooking the objective evidence to justify your belief that all this is about NHI.

I have been clear on my position, I'm not changing this and certainly don't need to reiterate it.

I'm can't answer for your MLEI though.
 
Scrutinize said:
I have been clear on my position, I'm not changing this and certainly don't need to reiterate it.
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What's happening is; you can't answer it, because in doing so you must agree with me, because it's 100% clear they're talking about aliens.

Your position is about as clear as mud, and the best way for you to evade the question is to not answer at all, whilst trying to turn the thing on me by making it look like it's my fault.

I still want an answer though - what does David Grusch mean in the following interview?


3 Mins, 30 seconds.

Ross Coulthart: When you say crash retrieval program, what do you mean?
David Grusch: These are retrieving, non-human origin technical vehicles, call it spacecraft if you will, non-human exotic origin vehicles, which have either landed or crashed.
Ross Coulthart: We have spacecraft, from another species?
David Grusch: We do.
Ross Coulthart: How many?
David Grusch: Quite a number
Ross Coulthart: You're kidding!
David Grusch: No.

What are 'non-human, exotic origin vehicles, spacecraft from another species' how do you interpret that?
 
Felon said:
Where in the video does Luis Elizondo say that it was live animals being used to test the flying-saucers, and that it was live animals that crashed at a test range?
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I am going to counter that point and say where in the video does Luis say its alien biologics? He never once said the biologics are from aliens. Also where does anyone say its an animal testing flying saucers? It was likely just a military experimental craft testing out something like a prototype new jet engine. That's what that area was known for as a test flight area.

Given that the records and evidence seem to show the crash was real and actually happened and given that the records show biologicals were given to the two defences contractors to analyse and that the crash took place in a testing range known for experimental craft.
Then for the evidence we have the best fit at the moment is a crash happened in a test range known for testing experimental craft. This happened in a timeframe known for using animal test subjects in experimental craft. None human biologics recovered are likely either from the test animal in the craft or a wild animal caught up in the crash.

Make fun of this as much as you like, but its the best fit for the evidence we have and its a sensible explanation. If you don't like my explanation what's your explanation for the recovered biologics from the crash site?
 
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Pottsey said:
I am going to counter that point and say where in the video does Luis say its alien biologics?
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You don't counter a point, by simply asking another question.

You said it was animals - where did you get that from? did Luis Elizondo say it? did you read it elsewhere? or are you just guessing?
 
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Felon said:
I'm asking how he knows that (that it's animals), and so far - it's just a bunch of baloney with no source.
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There are only 3 options, animals, plants or aliens. The crash and recovered biologics seem to be real as its documented in the military records. There is zero evidence for aliens and no one not even Luis has said aliens so I am ruling that one out. Given the situation being described the most logical and likely answer is animals with a lessor chance but not zero chance of it being plant matter.

The only person trying to argue the recovered biologics is aliens is you. No where in the video clip did anyone say the biologics are alien. I have no idea where you got aliens from or why you are so against it being plants or animal biologics and must be alien biologics. Do you have any none baloney sources that show its alien biologics?
 
tangey said:
Could this David guy be a USA David icke ?
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Not a a chance. While David could be, in fact I would say highly likely partly wrong in some areas he has had a full background check and its been confirmed he is who he says he is and that he did work at the UAP Task force. David was a highly ranked intelligence officer who deals in facts and evidence. David didn't just make claims its reported he handed over 11 hours of testimony and 100's of pages of documentation and evidence at least from my understanding.
 
Pottsey said:
Not a a chance. While David could be, in fact I would say highly likely partly wrong in some areas he has had a full background check and its been confirmed he is who he says he is and that he did work at the UAP Task force. David was a highly ranked intelligence officer who deals in facts and evidence. David didn't just make claims its reported he handed over 11 hours of testimony and 100's of pages of documentation and evidence at least from my understanding.
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I remind you that David icke was for many many years a well regarded and very prominent sports journalist/presenter...until he became the son of christ etc etc. People do go off the deep end for all sorts of reasons, either mental issues or it's their way of generating an income / being high profile / influencer etc.

I do not doubt that the guy worked where he says he did, and clearly will have knowledge of stuff that is not in the public domain, but perhaps that just might give a veneer of authenticity to potentially wild unsubstantiated utterances.

If Bill Gates in the moring said that microsoft has inserted backdoors into every windows since win7 and the regular updates are used to harvest all users financial information to pass it onto reform UK to finance their political agenda, just because he WAS Mr Microsft for years and would know all their secrets, doesn't mean it should be beleived. Of course win windows being in the public domain, that is easily proved/disproved. The best nut jobs pick things that can't be disproved, like aliens, ghosts or associations with diety.
 
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Pottsey said:
There are only 3 options, animals, plants or aliens.
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Considering David Grusch confirmed, that 'space craft from another species' had been collected by the US government.

What sort of animals or plants, could construct, fly or otherwise operate and crash a space craft?

Thekwango said:
he doesn't know it's animals, he's making a guess based on the info known. he's also told you that already in his previous replies too.
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Oh it's a guess! silly me!!!
 
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tangey said:
I remind you that David icke was for many many years a well regarded and very prominent sports journalist/presenter...until he became the son of christ etc etc. People do go off the deep end for all sorts of reasons, either mental issues or it's their way of generating an income / being high profile / influencer etc.

I do not doubt that the guy worked where he says he did, and clearly will have knowledge of stuff that is not in the public domain, but perhaps that just might give a veneer of authenticity to potentially wild unsubstantiated utterances.

If Bill Gates in the moring said that microsoft has inserted backdoors into every windows since win7 and the regular updates are used to harvest all users financial information to pass it onto reform UK to finance their political agenda, just because he WAS Mr Microsft for years and would know all their secrets, doesn't mean it should be beleived. Of course win windows being in the public domain, that is easily proved/disproved. The best nut jobs pick things that can't be disproved, like aliens, ghosts or associations with diety.
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This doesn’t seem to be the same as David isn’t alone, its reported multiple other whistle-blowers are alongside him. They also interview his work colleagues who agreed and backed his statements up. There was a full IG IC investigation and the conclusion was many of David's claims have merit and are valid.
That's not to say he got everything right and I believe some of his interruptions are likely not 100% accurate.
 
Felon said:
Considering David Grusch confirmed, that 'space craft from another species' had been collected by the US government.

What sort of animals or plants, could construct, fly or otherwise operate and crash a space craft?

Oh it's a guess! silly me!!!
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You are conflating different things. We are talking about your nonsense post and replies to the below video where you made up a bunch of rubbish about aliens then seemingly spent pages arguing against it being plant or animal biologics applying it had to be alien biologics.


As for your other questions I can spit ball and say in theory an advanced AI could be used to design or streamline elements of a craft and then that craft could be classed as a none human intelligence design. You could also have an AI fly an unmanned drone but as AI are not perfect you would expect some of them to fail and crash.
 
Thekwango said:
stop acting like a child, you've known this from pretty much the opening conversation you've had with him on the topic. all anyone looking in can do is make a guess from the limited information presented.
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I just think it's entertaining and interesting, how you can ask a simple question to the UFO nutters, such as: "What do you think these people are talking about?" - and it turns into several pages of waffle, then it becomes my fault for asking the question in the first place.

I just want a straight and simple answer.
 
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