Pentagon releases UFO footage

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

If no evidence is put forward, then the claim is meaningless - and if you continue making it, whilst using it to sell books - then that raises serious questions with regard to trust and honesty.
But multiple non book selling people on the senate committees have seen the evidence albeit ‘behind close doors’ and appear to think there’s something more to it (not aliens!)

Grusch might well be a lying sack of turd but the information he’s provided seems to have convinced the senate committee there’s something going on ‘off the books’
 
To be fair, AARO looked at the evidence, concluded there was nothing unusual at all -

Now that is definitely one of the key questions.

Why when on official record AARO found nothing, is all this still ongoing?
It's just seems so unnecessarily obtuse (the Luis interview) I don't know how they keep a straight face. Given all the eyes on it, if it's a pig wired up to a flying saucer why dodge the easy answer and use words like 'non-human' and 'bodies' instead.

Likewise Luis' pointlessly evasive answer to 'have we made contact / communicated with NH life'. On one hand we're taking about biologics from crash sites in whatever mess that would be. Versus the an example inspired by Pottsey, an AI craft that just so happens to have a pig inside, that is able to change trajectory when a couple of F22 fighters approach. I wouldn't personally use that as an example of 'communication' given the subject.

A fair few of the questions come across as being in on the massive time wasting circus in a 'wink, wink, aliens right?' kind of way. And Luis leans right on in to it. Even if the likely scenarios that Pottsey posed are the actuality.

Good questions around the evading straight answers?

Lots of deferring to a SCIF or closed doors briefing that could be perceived as unnecessary?
 
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Why when on official record AARO found nothing, is all this still ongoing?

Elizondo needs to keep the ball rolling, to keep the bunsen burner going...

Read his statement, I think it's just garbage designed to provoke the media and generate headlines.


Although much of my Government work on the UAP subject still remains classified, excessive secrecy has led to grave misdeeds against loyal civil servants, military personnel, and the public – all to hide the fact that we are not alone in the cosmos.

I mean he's basically just telling congress that the government is hiding aliens, he's just doing it to generate headlines - so he can sell more books and TV shows.

Also - you'll note, that the narrative is essentially the main plot from the X-files, it's nothing new at all - government trying to hide aliens and UFOs, it's not even original.
 
Want to add something biblical into the mix? :p

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And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.

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Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of man.

Ezekiel 4:
And then they take him for A RIDE IN THE CRAFT and the being gives him a "scroll" to eat which makes him understand.

Edit: Exodus too. Not many people realize that the whole time Moses was taking the Jews out of Egypt, a giant cloud hovered over them protecting them, and it even sat down on the ground between them and the Egyptians the whole night while the Red sea was moving to the sides. It lasted the entire night.

Look at the object in the sky, a stark resemblance to recent redacted "leaks" in relation to Immaculate Constellation:

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Hmmmmm.

What if "they" did visit in the past around that time, realised that primitive humans of that time could only learn so much whilst the rest of humankind preferred to consider you demons and witches and so they just left to go find another planet lol, thus leaving Earth behind with pockets of humanity thinking they were touched by Gods who must be worshipped else hellfire awaits etc.

Far fetched? yes for sure, unsurprising given our track record of misrepresenting and applying notions to things we don't understand? Absolutely also.
 
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But what came first? Maybe try a reverse image search on that biblical scene ;)
The UAP wasn't in the original image

Either:
a) primitive shaped UAPs visited in ancient times and they were documented in paintings
b) hoaxers faked photos and imagery based on unrelated shapes in old paintings and manuscripts
c) there have been extraterrestrial visitations, but also far more UAP hoaxes through history
Can't decide on what c) should be, just didn't want the options to be so binary!
 
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Even the person who posted the image on Reddit said they mocked it up for discussion. Thought provoking idea, but I wouldn't hang it off any photo or painting created by humans.
 
Want to add something biblical into the mix? :p

Look at the object in the sky, a stark resemblance to recent redacted "leaks" in relation to Immaculate Constellation:

Hmmmmm.

What if "they" did visit in the past around that time, realised that primitive humans of that time could only learn so much whilst the rest of humankind preferred to consider you demons and witches and so they just left to go find another planet lol, thus leaving Earth behind with pockets of humanity thinking they were touched by Gods who must be worshipped else hellfire awaits etc.

Far fetched? yes for sure, unsurprising given our track record of misrepresenting and applying notions to things we don't understand? Absolutely also.
I might be misremembering re. the biblical quote but in Exodus I believe the whirlwind was the presence of God while he was guiding the Jews out of Egypt. And surely the four creatures with the likeness of man were supposed to be angels?
 
With the recent activity about objects seen hovering above 3 UK military bases where the USA has stations, the below was rather curious as it's really clear imagery and footage of a sphere hovering around Manchester Airport from June and recorded by cockpit crew from one plane on the runway.

The crew have been talking about it amongst themselves all these months and only just come public with it.

It is by far the clearest media to date and they claim was not a standard drone or anything like that as they know what standard stuff is when they see them out of the cockpit.


Seems these things are getting more and more common and the most recent house congressional hearing in the USA was talking about the UK bases incidents as well where they stated that the UAPs appear to not be a threat but would not answer any questions as to why they were not being shot down given they did shoot down the Chinese balloons last year.....

The military bases incidents from November:


And here is some discussion about accounts related to these leaks being suddenly deleted, for examples Liberty Wings UK channel reposted some of this stuff and within hours was gone from YouTube.

 
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Clear considering everything else is a blurry blob or a light in the night sky that could be anything. So yes, clear is the word that describes it well enough.
 
But spherical drones exist. Not being standard doesn't mean much, and being in focus doesn't mean it's a clear photo that offers up any new information.

We have some unauthorised drones doing stuff, and in some cases, unexpected flight duration capabilities.
 
But spherical drones exist. Not being standard doesn't mean much, and being in focus doesn't mean it's a clear photo that offers up any new information.

We have some unauthorised drones doing stuff, and in some cases, unexpected flight duration capabilities.
Flight duration capabilities which are decades ahead of any known current day drone if the reports are accurate about speeds, endurance, flight altitude. Has to be some high end military drone. Assuming the report are correct I don't see how this can be a member of the public running an every day shop brought drones.
 
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Clear considering everything else is a blurry blob or a light in the night sky that could be anything. So yes, clear is the word that describes it well enough.

But you get the point? It's "clear" (it is not clear) but only in relation to the less clear nonsense which is paraded as proof?
 
Yes but what if I want to believe, man! Like Mulder in X-Files, did you not see his office poster?!

Jokes aside, does it even matter at this point? People will still remain sceptical regardless of how clear media is. This sort of thing always did and always will require quite literally beings or robots landing on the front lawn of whatever PM or president's house and then televising the event for people to go "oh ok fine" :p

On the other side of the coin I give you the most recent Event Horizon interview with Avi Loeb, a person who people have taken out of context plenty of times but he's a well regarded academic and scientist who actively runs projects with his students at Harvard working on getting the science data however they can so that the data can be analysed and peer reviewed and shared publicly. The govs don't seem to be forthcoming with sharing the data they have though, even though the military publicly state they have no idea what the flying things are but don't consider them a threat (just this past week) but have started to call them "drones" now all the same. If they are drones, then why not shoot them down since the origin is not known and they are hovering above nuclear sites?


For ref, Loeb doesn't believe stuff like Oumuamua was an alien intelligence craft floating through our solar system, but that it is a weird object and more data is needed to determine its origin and classification, because not long after this was spotted, another object was spotted by the same telescopes that did not get media attention, which turned out to be a piece of NASA rocket debris cruising through the solar system which was only confirmed after the data was analysed.

The bottom line is something is going on, and it's been building up the last few years, nobody outside of those military circles knows exactly what yet it's all a matter of national security even though the latest incidents they say pose no known threat... So without the scientific data being shared, everything else is just either the word of mouth from former officials from these circles, or unclear/clear media leaked online only for those account holders or re-sharers to be deleted off the internet within a day.

Also consider that on the ISS right now NASA has observed organisms that have grown out there in space and formed colonies on parts of the space station based on the conditions the station has provided them. That means we have helped in the creation of actual alien organisms out in space in a short space of time. May of these were found to be mutating and resistant to drugs so perfect for studying:

Thirteen strains of E. bugandensis, a bacterium notorious for being multi-drug resistant, were isolated from the ISS. Study findings indicate under stress, the ISS isolated strains were mutated and became genetically and functionally distinct compared to their Earth counterparts. The strains were able to viably persist in the ISS over time with a significant abundance. E. bugandensis coexisted with multiple other microorganisms, and in some cases could have helped those organisms survive.


We have lietral "aliens" on our space station, and people have a hard time fathoming that another species out there given billions of years might have found a way to send their creations over here to expolore and report back on potential planets of habitat :D

I keep an open mind, but at the same time I also want to see the data of course and will update my mind once data shows what's what, which is what science is all about surely.
 
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Was watching today's LBC segment on that actually and yes the coincidence factor is too high to not be Russia, but it also seems abit /too/ coincidental too :p

 
It just boils down to the fact that everyone has a different threshold to what they will call alien, or even interesting :)

People will still remain sceptical regardless of how clear media is. This sort of thing always did and always will require quite literally beings or robots landing on the front lawn
Well yeah! There is an unfathomable difference between man-made and alien explorers. The Manchester video doesn't even register as a blip on my alien radar.

lietral "aliens" on our space station, and people have a hard time fathoming that another species out there given billions of years might have found a way to send their creations over here
I mean, alien to what exactly? It can be used as a broad term, but is it really alien if it's already not on Earth? It's a mutation of something we have on Earth. Again unfathomable difference between this and NHI. But that's fine, you want to believe more than I do. I envy your enthusiasm, sometimes. :cool:
 
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