Pentagon releases UFO footage

keyser van someone said:
New Jersey getting some UAP twitter action, or rather reporting feedback loop. People report something including to the FBI, FBI have to investigate, now the news can use the phrase "the FBI are investigating", people then look out for anything in the night sky, people report all kinda of crazy stuff - are they sure that's what they saw? :) eye witness testimony is pretty terrible.

All the videos I've seen so far just look like aircraft at night with standard lighting/flashing.
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They are not technically aircraft rather unmanned drones. The reports from NJ I believe are PteroDynamics XP-4 Transwing military class drones with a transwing design, which transitions between quadcopter and fixed-wing modes. Its 13ft wide by 6ft long and in fixed wing mode is being mistaken as an aircraft.
 
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I kill Bunnies said:
Proof?

There are still examining the bodies as far as I know.
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The DNA results they put out ages ago said the large body was made up of human DNA. The tiny bodies seem to be made up of a mix of animal and human parts. As far as I can tell the large bodies are real human bodies and the small ones are effigies. There is zero evidence I have seem to say these are alien bodies.
 
I kill Bunnies said:
Science says they are not human morphoanatomically as explained by Dr. Piotti craniometry studies and Dr. Hernandez overall studies.

I copy and pasted that from Reddit LOL.
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Science says they are human. Carbon dating puts them at around the end of the Nazcan culture who where active in that region around that time. DNA testing conclusively shows they are human at least for the large bodies and many of the human anatomical anomalies match the body deformation and modifications that the Nazcan culture practised in that region from the timeframe the bodies are dated back to. I see lots of people call them alien but no actual evidence to explain why they are alien.
 
I kill Bunnies said:
Unknown DNA

www.google.com

Alien expert presents '1,000-year-old bodies of non-humans' in Mexico

Carbon dating by the National Autonomous University of Mexico (UNAM) found the bodies, pictured with three-fingered hands and feet, no teeth, were more than 1,000 years old.
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Yes because those smaller ones are effigies with animal part and other stuff mixed in. When you read the DNA results due to being 1000 year old some of the DNA had degraded and was listed as unknown. Not because it aliens just because its mixed in with animal and plant DNA and degraded. If you search this thread I think it was late 2023 perhaps early 2024 I posted links directly to the DNA results. The large bodies are 100% conclusively human. The small bodies are effigies made up of a mix of children bones, chicken and other animal bones the Xrays show chicken feet used for the small body feet. The fingers and heads match the Nazcan human culture from 1000 years ago in that area.
 
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What's ridiculous about this is nobody is coming forward to present an explanation as to where these drones are coming from and where they are going /landing.:especially when you take into account there's a military base nearby and at least one account of a black hawk helicopter in the air:
 
ethan said:
What's ridiculous about this is nobody is coming forward to present an explanation as to where these drones are coming from and where they are going /landing.:especially when you take into account there's a military base nearby and at least one account of a black hawk helicopter in the air:
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The military in that area are testing out PteroDynamics XP-4 Transwing military class drones and there flight path matches the UAP sightings. The flight path they use is often directly from the coast up to northern NJ and ends right next to Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, home of the Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division (NAWCAD), whose whole job is to research, test and support aircraft for navy combat operations. So I am pretty sure the UAP sighting in this case are from the Transwing drone.

 
I suppose you're right. They certainly look like the drone you presented and there's nothing to suggest there's anything but a mundane explanation. That being said, the police, as of last night were sending their own drones up to investigate. It appears odd and crazy that the military haven't informed the FBI or the local enforcement agencies, including the FAA in the area?
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Pottsey said:
PteroDynamics XP-4 Transwing military class drones
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that thing looks pretty sick.

I always wanted a FPV powered glider but in the UK the laws completely suck about flying them.
in other countries you see people doing 20+ mile flights with them but UK laws states you must have a spotter and never leave LOS :/

a bit of flying polystyrene ain't killing no one
 
ethan said:
I suppose you're right. They certainly look like the drone you presented and there's nothing to suggest there's anything but a mundane explanation. That being said, the police, as of last night were sending their own drones up to investigate. It appears odd and crazy that the military haven't informed the FBI or the local enforcement agencies, including the FAA in the area?
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Then it wouldn't be a secret! The military are suppose to stay ahead of the enemy military around the world, ie keep it out of public domain.

Maybe instead of massive drones how about 10000 small ones each with either C4 or bullet, or together they form a massive sign with an arrow pointing to where to bad guys are, and then after we get take out the bad guys we can have them form a massive 'LOL' in the sky before they return to base.

If I can think of it I'm sure it already exists, otherwise I should be some kind of military adviser..
 
Even the military or law enforcement are not allowed to transgress FAA regulations without permission or stating their reasons for it: In US Territorial Airspace, the civilian authority (FAA) has ultimate jurisdiction over all aircraft and airspace. Military aircraft must obey FAA regulations and military controllers use the same set of rules that civilian controllers use.
The command center for all US ATM/ATC functions is the ATCSCC in Virginia. It is run by the FAA, although there are representatives there from the military, airlines, and other concerned entities.
There are, of course, special use airspace areas (SUAs) and agreements between the FAA and the DoD that allow military aircraft to perform their functions and respond to emergencies. As is the case with so many things with the FAA, this is not an adversarial relationship, it is a collaborative one… but, in the end, it’s the FAA’s house. It is a lynchpin of the US Constitution that the civilian authority, from the [civilian] President on down through his appointed Secretaries and other representatives, retains control of its military, particularly on US soil (and in US airspace).


What's really interesting about the events unfolding around New Jersey and the other counties is they appeared to have been happening around the same or similar time as the reported incursions around the American bases in the UK:

Ongoing Drone and UAP Incursions Over U.S. and UK Bases Raise Security and Strategic Concerns​



Overview

From November to December 2024, a wave of unauthorized drone and UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) incursions over military installations in the United Kingdom and the United States has prompted heightened security responses and investigations. These incidents have raised concerns about the origin, intent, and capabilities of the observed objects, given their advanced performance and proximity to sensitive military sites. Below is a detailed timeline, analysis, and theories surrounding these events.

Timeline of Incursions and Key Developments

January 2024: U.S. Nuclear Weapons Deployment to RAF Lakenheath

• Reports confirmed that the U.S. planned to redeploy B61 nuclear bombs to RAF Lakenheath as part of NATO’s deterrence strategy. This marked the first time in 15 years that nuclear weapons were stationed at the base.
(The Guardian)

November 20-24, 2024: UK Incursions Begin

• RAF Lakenheath, RAF Mildenhall, and RAF Feltwell:
Small drones were observed loitering near U.S. Air Force bases in England. Witnesses described multiple drones with varying configurations performing coordinated movements. (Defense Scoop)

November 25, 2024: Deployment of Counter-Drone Measures

• The British military deployed advanced counter-drone platforms, including the ORCUS system, to intercept and mitigate drone activity. Despite these efforts, incursions persisted.
(The Aviationist)

November 26, 2024: Lights-Out NOTAM Issued

• A “lights-out” NOTAM (Notice to Air Missions) was issued over RAF Lakenheath to minimize visibility of aerial operations. This precaution suggests heightened security concerns and possible risks posed by drone activity.
November 26, 2024: Pentagon Statement

• Press Briefing by Maj. Gen. Pat Ryder:
The Pentagon confirmed the incursions but downplayed their impact on operations or security. This statement contrasts with visible military responses, including NOTAMs and counter-drone deployments. (AeroTime)

November 27, 2024: SAS and SBS Deployed

• Special Forces Mobilized:
British Special Forces, including the Special Air Service (SAS) and Special Boat Service (SBS), were deployed to RAF Lakenheath. These elite units were tasked with investigating the origin and intent of the drone incursions. (Washington Examiner)

November 27, 2024: Criminal Investigation Launched

• Ministry of Defence Police:
A joint investigation involving the MoD Police, local authorities, and U.S. military personnel was launched to identify the origins of the drones. This marked an escalation in the response. (AP News)

December 1-2, 2024: Continued Surveillance and Broader Security Concerns

• Heightened Alert:
Surveillance of affected areas continued, with reports highlighting the growing threat posed by “grey zone” tactics, potentially by adversarial nations like Russia. (The Times)

Analysis

  1. State or State-Sponsored Espionage
The most likely explanation is state-sponsored UAV activity, with potential actors being Russia or China. These incursions align with tactics observed in hybrid warfare, likely aiming to: • Gather intelligence on NATO operations. • Probe air defense responses near nuclear-capable bases.

2. Advanced Drone Capabilities

The observed drones demonstrate: • Prolonged loiter times over bases. • Resistance to countermeasures like jamming and electronic takeover. • Coordinated movements, indicative of centralized control and advanced engineering.

These capabilities appear to exceed publicly assessed capabilities of NATO peers, suggesting state-level technological leaps.

3. Nuclear Context

The redeployment of U.S. nuclear weapons to RAF Lakenheath in January 2024 adds a layer of strategic importance to the base. The timing of the incursions strongly suggests adversarial interest in these deployments. (The Guardian)

4. Alternative Possibilities

While state-sponsored activity remains the most plausible, other possibilities should not be ruled out: • Covert NATO/U.S. Operations: Testing counter-drone systems could explain the incursions, though the scale and secrecy are inconsistent with routine exercises. • Non-Human Intelligence (NHI): Historical parallels between UAP activity and nuclear sites warrant consideration of NHI as a potential origin, given the drones’ advanced capabilities and behavior.

5. Historical Parallels

RAF Lakenheath’s history of nuclear incidents (1956 and 1961) and the historical connection between UAPs and nuclear sites underscore the strategic sensitivity of these events. (Wikipedia)

Conclusion

The most likely answer is state or state-sponsored UAV activity, possibly from Russia or China. However, the drones’ advanced performance exceeds what is publicly assessed as peer capabilities by NATO. This gap suggests the need to remain open to alternative explanations, including: • Covert U.S./NATO testing. • Non-Human Intelligence (NHI).

The persistent nature of these incursions highlights vulnerabilities in airspace defense systems and the strategic importance of RAF Lakenheath as a nuclear-capable base. Greater transparency and international collaboration are vital to addressing these concerns and maintaining public trust.

References:

1. Defense Scoop: https://defensescoop.com/2024/11/26...drone-incursions-near-england-military-bases/

2. The Aviationist: https://theaviationist.com/2024/11/...inue-to-plague-u-s-air-force-bases-in-the-uk/

3. AeroTime: https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/usaf-bases-england-drone-swarms-pentagon-response

4. AP News: https://apnews.com/article/criminal...perations-uk-2311fdcdc78db0041b749b43b76e760d

5. The Times: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/russias-war-in-the-grey-zone-is-chipping-away-at-nato-w2wngch7g

6. The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-weapons-in-uk-amid-threat-from-russia-report

7. Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Lakenheath_nuclear_weapons_accidents

8. Washington Examiner: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ish-special-forces-drone-hunt-raf-lakenheath/
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Without knowing location, date, time of video it's hard to make any further comment.

The Time article sounds interesting but paywall:

"Russia’s war in the grey zone is chipping away at Nato
An insidious form of conflict, far subtler than all-out combat, is on the rise. It involves hired thugs, spy drones and seabed sabotage. Such attacks are hard to attribute but they target the very essence of western defence, writes Edward Lucas"

Sooo what are people saying, China/Russia having people on UK soil doing what with drones? Probing? Probe away, test our defences for weaknesses we welcome it. The way I see it, an untested system is weak and useless.
 
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