Man of Honour
I think the answer to your question is "no". It's not amazing that the Pentagon only made a high profile public response when it became a high profile public issue and thus a response became politically necessary.
Pentagon releases UFO footage
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I think the answer to your question is "no". It's not amazing that the Pentagon only made a high profile public response when it became a high profile public issue and thus a response became politically necessary.
Soldato
Your misquoting/ taking what's been said out of context. I'm surprised you've done this? Where have I specifically mentioned the word aliens?
In post 1227 I Indicated that the fleets optical/radar and infa red data was being used to show the flight characteristics of the UAP phenomena to corroborate what is being said about them being multi generational/ beyond multi generational to Congress. The word "alien" was never used.
Previously you asked how it was I could know there would be evidence in the report to corroborate what would be said?
Well, If I was trying to show evidence of multi or beyond multi generational capabilities of UAP's, I would show the radar/infared and optical data revealing them to be able to fly and remain airborne with no exhaust, no wings to generate lift and no heat signature.
It's for this reason Christopher Mellon-Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defence for Bush and Clinton has recently leaked the (now famous) videos to the New York times.
Nobody in the military was taking the problem of UAP's seriously enough to provide guidance and support to the USS Omaha and Princeton when they were encountering this phenomena.
Mellon indicated that the Nimitz Aircraft Carrier strike group only detected the UAP's (2004) after the USS Princeton received a new radar upgrade. (See famous tic tac incident.)
The Princeton detected anomalous objects descending from a height of 80,000 feet in less than a second. Mellon has gone on record as saying they are not Chinese, American or Russian etc.
Both you and I know that the only thing I have been saying/suggesting, is that whatever evidence there is-is going to have to show these capabilities and characteristics or risk showing nothing at all. It's got bugger all to do with faith or having to know what's actually going to be said word for word or shown.
I've been talking about UAP's/UFO's -I haven't mentioned aliens/flying saucers.
On the question of how many-did they Kill and how much damage did they cause-as if we're even really on the same page here - all I've done is merely made it clear it is false to conclude all UAP encounters can and have occurred without incident?
I do however believe there is a report that made it's way to the NSA and CIA in 1976 called the Tehran Incident that may illustrate some of the above.
Truth be told I'm done with this in its current form as it's not been worth the effort. The people with the most common sense and less patience (to their credit) left a while ago.
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Soldato
Ignore. Too tired.
ethan, do yourself a favour and stop replying to people who are not remotely interested in a two-way discourse with you. You are being baited to hell and back with increasingly ridiculous logic and to expend all of that time and energy replying to such tireless rebutters, who have already made their bias and rigid stance perfectly clear way back in the thread, is just pointless. In these situations it is always better to just ignore and do not respond.
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Man of Honour
I see exactly the opposite and Angilion is being bated by somebody who has only got faith and no hard evidence.
Angilion constantly asks for evidence and gets nothing in return the best one being the Omaha Incident
Come on Ethan, even you can't believe that one.
This is almost certainly not an actual UFO. (as it being claimed by the professor on youtube)
It's almost certainly backscatter, where light reflects off of bits of moisture or dust floating in the air or inside the camera, causing this exact type of artifact. The JPEG compression and sharpening combined with the low resolution have likely altered it's shape a little, but it does just look like backscatter to me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter_(photography)
For example, if you look at the image below - some of the smaller orbs look very similar indeed to the one above.
Of course, people will likely say that I'm crazy or something.. but meh.
It's almost certainly backscatter, where light reflects off of bits of moisture or dust floating in the air or inside the camera, causing this exact type of artifact. The JPEG compression and sharpening combined with the low resolution have likely altered it's shape a little, but it does just look like backscatter to me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter_(photography)
For example, if you look at the image below - some of the smaller orbs look very similar indeed to the one above.
Of course, people will likely say that I'm crazy or something.. but meh.
Soldato
Wise advice indeed. Thank you. I never knew people could be so-well, you know.
Seems to have all been a bit of a damp squib this. For months leading up to June it was all being hyped as potentially world changing etc and it all ultimately seems to have passed with barely a bump on any sort of scale of revelation.
I concur totally. @ethan there is really no point discussing it with certain people in this thread. Do yourself a favour and just ignore their contributions as I am doing, the discussion is not about the content now but about one side just wanting to be right. It will forever go round in circles. You will get increasingly aggravated to no end.
I don't think the report has actually come out yet.
The "pyramid UFO/UAP" can be explained just as easily, as Mick West does in this video:This is almost certainly not an actual UFO. (as it being claimed by the professor on youtube)
It's almost certainly backscatter, where light reflects off of bits of moisture or dust floating in the air or inside the camera, causing this exact type of artifact. The JPEG compression and sharpening combined with the low resolution have likely altered it's shape a little, but it does just look like backscatter to me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter_(photography)
For example, if you look at the image below - some of the smaller orbs look very similar indeed to the one above.
Of course, people will likely say that I'm crazy or something.. but meh.
Yeah I believe its the 25th, its just that the whole thing seems to have lost the momentum it had in the build up to this month. Cant help but think that the report is going to come out and really say nothing of consequence and will pass by into history making no impact at all. We'll see though.
Yeah it is, it seems like they want to believe it before they see it - so when a picture of some lens flare shows up, that's all it takes.
I think the hype train was mostly the work of Tom Delonge from Blink 182, trying to get people to invest in his company. These were the people which originally released the Pentagon UFO videos and are claiming directly or indirectly that it's aliens, so have a vested financial interest in propagating this type of stuff.
You can see their glossy investor intro video;
To the Start Academy is old hat now, Mellon and Elizondo left and it seems to have faded to nothing.
All the cool kids are investigating Skyfort now...
https://blog.adamkehoe.com/skyfort-speaks/
All the cool kids are investigating Skyfort now...
https://blog.adamkehoe.com/skyfort-speaks/
Soldato
wouldn't military cameras and electronics be impervious to dust and moisture and built to higher standards with no chance of dust or moisture being trapped inside the housing.
they pretty much fly through wet air
That particular picture was apparently from a snapshot camera taken by the pilot, not from the aircrafts systems or sensors.
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I'd think they all fall under the same disinfo umbrella, they tried with TTSA and failed now they're trying again with a new branch, poor Tom though still trying to peddle all the lies he's been told
so he probably saw it with his eyes too then
Soldato
I concur totally. @ethan there is really no point discussing it with certain people in this thread. Do yourself a favour and just ignore their contributions as I am doing, the discussion is not about the content now but about one side just wanting to be right. It will forever go round in circles. You will get increasingly aggravated to no end.
Yes. You're right. I'm going to do what I previously mentioned and see where things go from there.
*shrugs* who knows. I mean there's so little to go on in the first place that the whole thing is tantamount to being completely meaningless.