piracy? lets solve it with a letter!

If I am unable to rent/buy something immediately after it being aired, then it's getting pirated. I'm not paying £20 something a month to watch one show, so either get with the times or continue to have your stuff pirated. It's disgraceful these companies haven't realised that yet.

It's all about you isn't it, get with the times.
 
The thing is, there is clearly a demand for better, more convenient service. Look at the impact good digital download services have had on music and games, then compare to film and TV. Whilst the way people are taking the content is not right, don't you think it's about time the companies realised why it's happening, and actually take steps that would reduce it, instead of just going down the heavy-handed route? If they keep this up, nothing will change. People will just find new and better ways to get access to the content.
 
It's all about you isn't it, get with the times.

It's certainly not about the general consumer. Please tell me why regular people benefit from staggered release schedule? As someone previously stated, the rise of social media for advertising platforms means spoilers are rife.
 
JohnnyG, it's pointless arguing, you're not going to convince anyone that they should wait (potentially a very long time) and risk spoilers (from a quick Google GoT airs at exactly the same time on Sky as it does in the US, so saying you've managed to avoid spoilers for that is pretty meaningless).

It also means that you can't really talk to anyone you know (or on forums etc) about it, because they're probably watching stuff well ahead of you if it's a show with different air dates between countries.

Then there's the fact that streaming/watching TV is very inconvenient, to the point where if I couldn't download I probably wouldn't watch anything at all.

So, yes, I'll continue to download all my TV shows until someone actually releases the content I want to watch in a way that I find watchable (the same way I've stopped pirating games and music now that those industries have caught up with technology).

Lol @ Get with the times.
 
It's certainly not about the general consumer. Please tell me why regular people benefit from staggered release schedule? As someone previously stated, the rise of social media for advertising platforms means spoilers are rife.
Why should 'regular people' benefit from a staggered release schedule?!
If it's out of your reach, reach higher.
 
I wait for films to come out at the cinema or on BlinkBox until, well until they're out. Why can't you?

Egh? That's a slightly different scenario with the Cinema, before it's at the Cinema, it's not available, that's it.
I have an unlimited card, I go to to the cinema.

That's completely different to something airing, but then becoming unavailable legally for over a year...

Even Cinema's not like that, after it's aired (For like 3-4 weeks, again, unlike TV's which is like 1 specific time and wang we're gone). Then there's no quality available as Cam's are poor, so pirating it yields no benefits. But with TV shows? The quality is there in piracy, you just can't buy it
 
I think it will make a difference.

a lot of the appeal for downloading is the anonymity,

For one, I think kids downloading games and movies will be a bit wiser when their parents pick up a letter saying it has come to our attention that you have a bit of a habit of violating copy right law. This is illegal and could result in a criminal conviction in the future.


Also reminding people that they know who they are and what they are doing will go along way to alter this mindset that because it's the internet you aren't accountable.

At this rate, everyone will ditch the internet we know today and switch to stuff like TOR.
 
JohnnyG, it's pointless arguing, you're not going to convince anyone that they should wait (potentially a very long time) and risk spoilers (from a quick Google GoT airs at exactly the same time on Sky as it does in the US, so saying you've managed to avoid spoilers for that is pretty meaningless).

It also means that you can't really talk to anyone you know (or on forums etc) about it, because they're probably watching stuff well ahead of you if it's a show with different air dates between countries.

Then there's the fact that streaming/watching TV is very inconvenient, to the point where if I couldn't download I probably wouldn't watch anything at all.

So, yes, I'll continue to download all my TV shows until someone actually releases the content I want to watch in a way that I find watchable (the same way I've stopped pirating games and music now that those industries have caught up with technology).

Lol @ Get with the times.
Do you stamp your feet when you want feeding before you go to bed?
It's all convenience and what suits your lifestyle.
Yeah it's easier nicking programs on-line, but there is simply no defence for it.
I WANT IT NOW, isn't a valid reason.
 
Not everyone has patience but most would wait a few weeks or a month or 2 but when some stuff doesn't even turn up here for around 2 years or so... well life is just too short for that.

Ultimately there is a (paying) market there for it I consider it more of a failure of the company who is trying to make money from the content than I do consider it reflects badly on the people pirating it in this day and age.
 
You can't even bring a civil case against someone downloading TV shows that aren't available to buy. There has to be a loss to sue for compensation. It's not even immoral, again because there isn't a loss.
 
Do you stamp your feet when you want feeding before you go to bed?
It's all convenience and what suits your lifestyle.
Yeah it's easier nicking programs on-line, but there is simply no defence for it.
I WANT IT NOW, isn't a valid reason.

I dont see a decent defense for not pirating apart from "well you are not allowed, so no"

Everyone keeps comparing it to shop-lifting which it is nothing alike. Steve Jobs was right on the matter, rather than come up with ways to stop people pirating create a service good enough so people will pay for it instead of pirate.

Do I want to spend around 5 minutes trying to download a poor quality track without any tags, going through countless adverts and stupidly low speed. Or do I want to click 1 button and get great quality track with tags within next 10 seconds?

Same goes for Steam, yes you can pirate a game but it will take you x10 amount of time to do so, run into few trojans and broken repacks on the way... Then after each patch you will have to find a new crack, installing mods would be utter hell and it would crash every 2 seconds.

Oh, and forget Multi-player too....

Improve the service and pirating will go down.... No point crying that pirating is stealing all your business if you are selling games on DVD`s 2 months after release date.

If I remember correctly, Steam largest market is in Russia a country known to be rife with piracy.... Its simple, after Steam introduced the "Market" essentially if done correctly, you can make money on the game you legally purchased... It just became a smart investment and people went for it.
 
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Do you stamp your feet when you want feeding before you go to bed?
It's all convenience and what suits your lifestyle.
Yeah it's easier nicking programs on-line, but there is simply no defence for it.
I WANT IT NOW, isn't a valid reason.

Lol.

Yes, of course it's all about what suits me, it's my money and time. Why would I pay for something that I'm not going to watch, or not watch something I enjoy just because some people think it's bad.

There's a lot of reasons to pirate TV shows, most of which have been listed in this thread. Just because you disagree doesn't mean they're not vaid reasons.
 
I dont see a decent defense for not pirating apart from "well you are not allowed, so no"

Everyone keeps comparing it to shop-lifting which it is nothing alike. Steve Jobs was right on the matter, rather than come up with ways to stop people pirating create a service good enough so people will pay for it instead of pirate.

Do I want to spend around 5 minutes trying to download a poor quality track without any tags, going through countless adverts and stupidly low speed. Or do I want to click 1 button and get great quality track with tags within next 10 seconds?

Same goes for Steam, yes you can pirate a game but it will take you x10 amount of time to do so, run into few trojans and broken repacks on the way... Then after each patch you will have to find a new crack, installing mods would be utter hell and it would crash every 2 seconds.

Oh, and forget Multi-player too....

Improve the service and pirating will go down.... No point crying that pirating is stealing all your business if you are selling games on DVD`s 2 months after release date.

If I remember correctly, Steam largest market is in Russia a country known to be rife with piracy.... Its simple, after Steam introduced the "Market" essentially if done correctly, you can make money on the game you legally purchased... It just became a smart investment and people went for it.

Its not at all right your still depriving someone of an income even if not a sale.

However I have very little, infact no sympathy, for any entity that cries about piracy but doesn't atleast attempt to make content available in a reasonable and timely fashion - there is a market there capitalise or quit crying.
 
Lol.

Yes, of course it's all about what suits me, it's my money and time. Why would I pay for something that I'm not going to watch, or not watch something I enjoy just because some people think it's bad.

There's a lot of reasons to pirate TV shows, most of which have been listed in this thread. Just because you disagree doesn't mean they're not vaid reasons.

Because the owners of the product you want require you to pay for it before you have it.
Simple really.
 
I've got a VPN already, although I only use that to get around VM's traffic shaping on Youtube. I don't like to be told how often I can or cannot use a web site, hence using the VPN at approx. £25/year. The VPN also seems to remove my 20mbit/s cap as speedtest.net occasionally clocks e.g. 26mbit/s which I guess is a bonus :-)

Piracy? My mentality is that I buy cheep. Boxsets, and Steam sales etc. I think that fewer people would go pirate this way, especially with the music industry!

Out of curiosity - did the gov't / BPI etc attempt to tackle kids copying tape-to-tape on Mummy's hi-fi back in the 1980s? Don't think there was any scare as such but I know for a fact that everyone did it :p
 
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