***** PlayStation Vita Official Thread *****

Jay794 said:
How long you think it will take before it gets hacked to run homebrew apps? VLC would be nice on the Vita
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There is no need for it to be hacked to get vlc on it. The PS Suite will allow devs to release apps and games on all PS Suite certified devices justice the app store.

Honestly I hope it doesn't get properly hacked, I have no desire to play snes roms and homebrew always leads to piracy.

Mull3t said:
Apparently it's already hacked for home brew through an exploit of a psp game that's on the store. No word yet on release but I think it will be soon.
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Only the PSP emulator on the Vita is hacked. Only stuff that was payable on a hacked PSP is playable on the Vita through that hack.
 
Fans are pushing to get Borderlands 2 on PS Vita. And Gearbox Software CEO Randy Pitchford wants to make it happen. Just visit the link below if are interested:
http://www.reddit.com/r/vita/comments/q4m5g/lets_get_borderlands_2_on_the_.../
Responding to an e-mail from a fan regarding the FPS / RPG hybrid on the handheld, Pitchford said:

Hi [name withheld],

Thanks for the e-mail - I loved it!

I love the Vita as do a lot of folks at the studio and we have explored this.

We'll need some partner's help and partner's commitments to make this happen. Feel free to let Sony and 2K Games and your favorite retailer know what you think.

Cheers!

- Randy
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what do you guys think?

I think that the cross play with PS3 would be epic instead of split screen plus you can play parts of the game on the go by sharing save files


Do you want borderlands 2 on vita?
 
Jay794 said:
It's not obviously flawed, think of the potential in a portable gaming device if it had similar graphical and processing power that a PC has
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Dedicated games consoles are way more efficient then PCs, and the vita has a much smaller and lower resolution screen, so it doesn't need to be as powerful as a PC to get similar performance. And then there's the battery life....
 
Jay794 said:
It's not obviously flawed, think of the potential in a portable gaming device if it had similar graphical and processing power that a PC has
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Potential is worth nothing if it's not practical or possible in the first place. The cost, power requirements and heat created are just three obvious prohibiting factors that spring to mind. Surely you're not actually this ignorant?
 
TheVoice said:
Potential is worth nothing if it's not practical or possible in the first place. The cost, power requirements and heat created are just three obvious prohibiting factors that spring to mind. Surely you're not actually this ignorant?
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So the cost of going from 512 to 1GB of ram is going to add an extra zero to the price of the next PSP or PS4? obviously only a major overhaul of the graphics card would warrant that
 
Jay794 said:
So the cost of going from 512 to 1GB of ram is going to add an extra zero to the price of the next PSP or PS4? obviously only a major overhaul of the graphics card would warrant that
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Increasing the RAM on the vita would be pointless. It's got the same amount of RAM as the PS3 and look at the graphics and physics which that can push out at 60fps (thinking of gt5 here). Increasing the RAM on the PS4 over the PS3 would definitely be a good improvement, probably be 1-2gb.
 
Jay794 said:
It's not obviously flawed, think of the potential in a portable gaming device if it had similar graphical and processing power that a PC has
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It would have he potential to run for about 4 minutes on anything smaller than a car battery. I know people want bite sized gameing but is that not taking it a bit far?

If they could make a portable that powerful they wouldn't need a whole pc to do it.

I'm not entirely sure you understand what you are asking. The next generation of home consoles MIGHT have 4GB of RAM, in all likelyhood that's going to be closer to 2GB. If you want even that much in a portable the price going to be extreme. People are already saying the Vita is too expensive even with all the deals.
 
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DBT85 said:
I'm not entirely sure you understand what you are asking
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Don't insult me, I understand my statement completely, consoles are lagging behind PC's for the exact reason you mentioned, the cost.

The iPad 2 has fairly good graphics and yeah the OS is pretty complex compared to the PS3's XMB but technology is always improving, a decent portable gaming device is just what is needed to give PC's and consoles a run for their money
 
Jay794 said:
Don't insult me, I understand my statement completely, consoles are lagging behind PC's for the exact reason you mentioned, the cost.

The iPad 2 has fairly good graphics and yeah the OS is pretty complex compared to the PS3's XMB but technology is always improving, a decent portable gaming device is just what is needed to give PC's and consoles a run for their money
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I'm not insulting you, I have no idea of your knowledge of processors, memory, architecture, die processes, TDPs, fabrication processes, etc. All I have to go on are your proposals and suggestions it seems to me and apparently others that you don't know what you are asking for. Whether that is genuine lack of knowledge on your part, being badly worded, or being misinterpreted by me I don't know.

To create a portable gaming device with a similar level of performance to a current day mid to high end PC at a price point 100 millino people might ever be able to actually afford would take a feat of technical engineering as yet unheard of in the world of computing.

The iPad is powerful but were it displaying on your 24" monitor or a 40" TV it would look abysmal. It looks good precisely because it ISN'T outputting on those sized displays.

I just do not understand why anyone would put 2gb of ram in a portable console, that could never use it all without substantial CPU and GPU upgrades, into a portable device when the next gen home consoles will only just be getting that much.

It's just financially and technologically not a sensible business decision in any way shape or form.

If you feel I've misunderstood you please let me know exactly what it is you want to see in a portable console at a reasonable price point.

Your comment was

think of the potential in a portable gaming device if it had similar graphical and processing power that a PC has
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What am I misreading?
 
DBT85 said:
Yes you can. Obviously that'll mean you can only play those games with those memory cards in.

Why would you be doing that btw?
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Well im going to get a vita but cant find the right bundle, the only one i can find i like has an 8gb memory card but i know for a fact that wont be enough because i play on getting a few games off the store, so was going to get a 16gb aswell when the 8gbs full.
 
Tune said:
Well im going to get a vita but cant find the right bundle, the only one i can find i like has an 8gb memory card but i know for a fact that wont be enough because i play on getting a few games off the store, so was going to get a 16gb aswell when the 8gbs full.
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Why not just sell the 8gb and stick with the 16? You can transfer your games off to a PC/MAC/PS3 so you don't have to re-download them.

It'll work fine though. You do need to turn the Vita off, hot swapping will not work and if you try it will just tell you that you need to reboot.

I've got Wipeout, Motorstorm RC, Escape Plan, Super Stardust Delta, the Fifa Demo (1.5gb!) and 1GBs worth of videos on mine and I have some room left on an 8GB card.
 
Still waiting for my £5 code...I have had The PsHome items and also the avatar. How long did it take for some of you to get your codes after this email?
 
DBT85 said:
Why not just sell the 8gb and stick with the 16? You can transfer your games off to a PC/MAC/PS3 so you don't have to re-download them.

It'll work fine though. You do need to turn the Vita off, hot swapping will not work and if you try it will just tell you that you need to reboot.

I've got Wipeout, Motorstorm RC, Escape Plan, Super Stardust Delta, the Fifa Demo (1.5gb!) and 1GBs worth of videos on mine and I have some room left on an 8GB card.
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Yeah i guess. Might do that then.
 
Mull3t said:
Still waiting for my £5 code...I have had The PsHome items and also the avatar. How long did it take for some of you to get your codes after this email?
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I got the Escape Plan discount e-mail within 24 hours of getting the Home Avatars etc.


rp2000
 
DBT85 said:
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My mistake, I am in no means saying that by 2013 we will see a PSP or PS4/5 with 4GB of RAM and 2GB VRAM graphics cards. As you quite rightly say the cost of producing that anytime soon would be crazy.

But wouldn't it be nice to be able to see the kind of graphics you see on your PC on your phone or on a PS Vita/Nintendo DS

TBH, I'm surprised just how bad the 3DS's graphics actually are considering Nintendo were, at one point at the top of the portable gaming craze.

Obviously the smaller the screen the better the graphics look, as you say, upscaling the iPad makes the graphics look awful. So surely to make amazing graphics on the small scale would be easy?
 
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