Please Help Me Solve My Long Lasting Stutter Problem

Mcnumpty2323 said:
I set cpu minimum state to 99%
I have different power plans for doing other stuff
Apart from gaming
So cpu can downclock on those plans when required
Definitely don't need it kicking out more heat
If it doesn't have to
Am already melting before even turned pc on today
Pretty ironic i moved south to escape Scottish weather
now i am complaining its too hot down south :cry:

Never realised tutorial sections of games were offline
Makes sense though

Yeah 60Mbs is very decent speed
Unless for some reason your upload speed is terrible
That should be way above required
Uploads probably 10--15 Mbs if it's standard fibre plan
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Ran Heaven and GPU got to 64 degrees at hottest which is fine right?

There were quite a few stutters during the benchmark.
 
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Will give these a watch but I've watched so many of these in the past I don't have much hope.
 
Download GPUZ and take a screen shot of the sensor tab after playing a game, if you notice any kind of clock drop on the gpu either core/memory clocks, double check what the power of the card was at that point, all the readouts will line up in gpu-z so if the power keeps dropping then it could be a psu.

The next step is to download msi afterburner and set a custom power limit of 80%, and repeat the process, launch gpu-z and run a game to see if the stutters stop or see if the clocks on core or ram still drop off.

as an example, i had a freind that had a psu problem with a 4090 and this was his gpu-z screenshot

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you can se the clocks keep dropping, power and voltage all drop at the same time which turned out to be a psu problem, it had gotten so bad we had to re-install windows as well as the psu swap

here is my gpu-z screenshot, i'm running a 4080s, but all cards want to look like this ideally

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all tests above were conducted in destiny 2 at 4k 144hz
 
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try these settings/recommendations for your 3xd cpu detailed in this video.

There are settings in windows you need to change, some apps, and a bios setting to configure.

Worth a shot..

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Webzta said:
try these settings/recommendations for your 3xd cpu detailed in this video.

There are settings in windows you need to change, some apps, and a bios setting to configure.

Worth a shot..

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I thought that video was for the dual ccd CPUs with 3d cache, given the 7800x3d is a single ccd there should be no reason to enable bios settings that jay shows.
 
wookiee87 said:
I thought that video was for the dual ccd CPUs with 3d cache, given the 7800x3d is a single ccd there should be no reason to enable bios settings that jay shows.
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Ah, still some of the settings in windows may still be helpful ignoring the bios one?
 
I'd like to start by saying I'm not that great at this stuff but I would atleast like to mention this. At most it might take you half an hour to try it (including download time) but it could help.

The game to really diagnose this is Overwatch 2. It's free to play and on Steam.

Reason? It has a very useful feature called SIM. If you go into the practice range and do Ctrl + Shift + N

There is a lot of info that pops up that looks daunting but we are only interested in the top left numbers:
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From memory, they are average value, max value and min value. On a perfect system with a capped fps (say 300) they should stay the same. If micro stutter happens then one of the values will increase substantially (and the graphs should also show it). Now it gets abit easier to diagnose the problem.

For me I was getting micro stutters with SIM values and it was fixed by disabling the Xbox Game Bar and the Discord in game overlay (User Settings > Game overlay > Switch off enable ingame overlay).

I have also seen weirdness with the geforce experience app enabled. Anyway just thought I would give something to try. None of the stuff mentioned likely won't do anything but you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
 
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wookiee87 said:
Download GPUZ and take a screen shot of the sensor tab after playing a game, if you notice any kind of clock drop on the gpu either core/memory clocks, double check what the power of the card was at that point, all the readouts will line up in gpu-z so if the power keeps dropping then it could be a psu.

The next step is to download msi afterburner and set a custom power limit of 80%, and repeat the process, launch gpu-z and run a game to see if the stutters stop or see if the clocks on core or ram still drop off.

as an example, i had a freind that had a psu problem with a 4090 and this was his gpu-z screenshot

m8UNrTE.png


you can se the clocks keep dropping, power and voltage all drop at the same time which turned out to be a psu problem, it had gotten so bad we had to re-install windows as well as the psu swap

here is my gpu-z screenshot, i'm running a 4080s, but all cards want to look like this ideally

Mlrr53R.png


all tests above were conducted in destiny 2 at 4k 144hz
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This is mine after 20 minutes of gaming. Notice anything wrong there?
 
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This is mine after 20 minutes of gaming. Notice anything wrong there?
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Pefcap reason looks solid as a rock as do clocks and power readouts, so I would rule out a hardware issue like PSU/GPU, have you got a game that can be played offline to test?

I should mention with my friends 4090 he had so many issues it affected his m.2 drive, in 6 months or so the drive had lost 15% of it's health which is a lot.

With the lag issues in game are there any lag issues on the windows desktop environment?
 
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GregI said:
I'd like to start by saying I'm not that great at this stuff but I would atleast like to mention this. At most it might take you half an hour to try it (including download time) but it could help.

The game to really diagnose this is Overwatch 2. It's free to play and on Steam.

Reason? It has a very useful feature called SIM. If you go into the practice range and do Ctrl + Shift + N

There is a lot of info that pops up that looks daunting but we are only interested in the top left numbers:
WH6BTq1.png


From memory, they are average value, max value and min value. On a perfect system with a capped fps (say 300) they should stay the same. If micro stutter happens then one of the values will increase substantially (and the graphs should also show it). Now it gets abit easier to diagnose the problem.

For me I was getting micro stutters with SIM values and it was fixed by disabling the Xbox Game Bar and the Discord in game overlay (User Settings > Game overlay > Switch off enable ingame overlay).

I have also seen weirdness with the geforce experience app enabled. Anyway just thought I would give something to try. None of the stuff mentioned likely won't do anything but you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
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It didn't seem to stutter at all on Overwatch training and most of the time the SIM was around 4-6 on all values but a few times them two orange bars shot up like in the picture.
 
Jesus 86ms is pretty bad. The most I saw was mid 30s. I doubt it's anything to do with an overlay then such as Discord.

Two ideas as a last ditch effort.

1: Granted I didn't read too much into all solutions already posted but maybe the PSU is sometimes running just outside of spec voltages? Have you run hwinfo64 and monitored the 12v and 5v rails while it happens?

2: Absolutely last ditch effort... as in only consider this if you're super desperate. I know you mentioned fresh Windows installs but did you try the really super stripped down "performance" versions such as AtlasOS?
 
Do you have wallpaper engine or even windows set to change your desktop background every few minutes? @VeNT had a similar sounding issue maybe last year, although with a full AMD system and he'd set windows to change the desktop wallpaper every 10 minutes and this was causing a stutter while it did so.
 
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Jesus 86ms is pretty bad. The most I saw was mid 30s. I doubt it's anything to do with an overlay then such as Discord.

Two ideas as a last ditch effort.

1: Granted I didn't read too much into all solutions already posted but maybe the PSU is sometimes running just outside of spec voltages? Have you run hwinfo64 and monitored the 12v and 5v rails while it happens?

2: Absolutely last ditch effort... as in only consider this if you're super desperate. I know you mentioned fresh Windows installs but did you try the really super stripped down "performance" versions such as AtlasOS
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I think it only did that though cos I took a screenshot and something popped up on the screen. I'm not sure it reached them levels apart from that.

I'll take a look at hwinfo64 and see if I notice anything but I have to be honest I don't really know what I'm looking out for.

Haven't tried AtlasOS but I just don't see why I'd need to go to these extremes when I've spent this much money, it's ridiculous.
 
MissChief said:
Do you have wallpaper engine or even windows set to change your desktop background every few minutes? @VeNT had a similar sounding issue maybe last year, although with a full AMD system and he'd set windows to change the desktop wallpaper every 10 minutes and this was causing a stutter while it did so.
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I have read about this but as far as I know I just have a static wallpaper.
 
MissChief said:
Do you have wallpaper engine or even windows set to change your desktop background every few minutes? @VeNT had a similar sounding issue maybe last year, although with a full AMD system and he'd set windows to change the desktop wallpaper every 10 minutes and this was causing a stutter while it did so.
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I was really hoping that would be the answer.
 
Guess you could try
Open task manager and close every single
Non essential process
See what happens

Or set up a virtual machine
Load Windows to it or linux such as Ubuntu
And only install the absolute necessities
Like gpu driver and a gpu benchmark
Just to try to see if it's Windows/other software issue
 
After the windows reinstalls you've been reinstalling the AMD chipset drivers too right?

Hail mary question but are you running a high polling rate mouse? 2-4k+? I've had horrible stutter in remote desktop apps with those before. Does use a bit more CPU to manage them as well.
 
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