Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

[Gabbatek]

The lead is only 13 points now. Labour has closed the gap to be the same as the gap between blair and major in 1997... how did that one turn out again?

I think by the time It gets to voting the gap will have shrank more.

It makes perfect sense why May doesn't want to do debates or meet the general public, because she is useless and people can see how vile she is just like on the Andrew Marr interview!

 

[Gabbatek]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1279255672152373

 

[Dolph]

I think by the time I gets to voting the gap will have shrank more.

It makes perfect sense why May doesn't want to do debates or meet the general public, because she is useless and people can see how vile she is just like on the Andrew Marr interview!

I don't, I expect that the labour manifesto will be disastrous, as it will either contain details of massive tax rises, or be a masterclass in economic insanity that will get torn apart.

Labour hinted at their housing policy this morning, basically making rent more expensive and reducing the number of available properties (if they regulate hard) or making no real change (if they don't).

I wouldn't be surprised to see labour drop below their 1983 performance at this rate.

 

[Tunney]

Forbes: The UK government is completely deluded about Brexit

The EU believes that May's team is out of its depth and doesn't understand the magnitude of the negotiations. This will lead to the UK exiting the EU without any deal in place.

 

[Uther]

Did you fill in your bingo card?
https://twitter.com/GdnPolitics/status/858567619363958784

We can laugh, but it will, unfortunately, have the desired effect on a lot of people who will sleepwalk into what's coming.

 

[Dolph]

Forbes: The UK government is completely deluded about Brexit

The EU believes that May's team is out of its depth and doesn't understand the magnitude of the negotiations. This will lead to the UK exiting the EU without any deal in place.

The EU are embarrassing themselves with this sort of statement. Personal attacks such as this makes me ashamed to have voted remain.

A failure to capitulate to the EU demands, or daring to have demands of our own, is not a negative.

 

[scorza]

Forbes: The UK government is completely deluded about Brexit

The EU believes that May's team is out of its depth and doesn't understand the magnitude of the negotiations. This will lead to the UK exiting the EU without any deal in place.

If anyone actually takes this seriously and is worried by it, try to remember that this is just Juncker's report that has been deliberately leaked to the media - I bet if you asked any UK official who was at the dinner they'd have a considerably different view of what went on. Expect many more such leaks from the EU during the negotiations (Mrs May is infamous in Westminster for not leaking anything).

 

[Danthus]

The EU are embarrassing themselves with this sort of statement. Personal attacks such as this makes me ashamed to have voted remain.

A failure to capitulate to the EU demands, or daring to have demands of our own, is not a negative.

They can see their project is on a knife edge, god forbid Le Pen wins becasue if she does France will be the next country to hold a referendum.

 

[Rroff]

The EU is seriously in need of reform - it was born in a different era and hasn't adapted enough to a changing world IMO. Its a shame we couldn't have had more of that aspect and less of pulling out entirely but sometimes there isn't much choice.

 

[McPhee]

Forbes: The UK government is completely deluded about Brexit

The EU believes that May's team is out of its depth and doesn't understand the magnitude of the negotiations. This will lead to the UK exiting the EU without any deal in place.

Strong, stable leadership.

 

[Dolph]

They can see their project is on a knife edge, god forbid Le Pen wins becasue if she does France will be the next country to hold a referendum.

This I think is true, the eu has long hidden itself from direct democratic accountability. If they had real confidence in the program, they would suggest each country had a referendum to prove their point. They won't though, because they know the eu is not that popular in many of its member states. They opposed the eu referendum in this country as well, and their history when the will goes against them (see eu constitution referenda) is pretty well established.

Unfortunately, it isn't likely to change any time soon.

 

[Gimpymoo]

The best thing to come out of this election will be Labour being a decent opposition again.

My sarcasm radar is broken

 

[McPhee]

They can see their project is on a knife edge, god forbid Le Pen wins becasue if she does France will be the next country to hold a referendum.

The French Election is so important to us right now. In terms of Brexit, it's far more significant than our own election. If Macron wins, the job of securing a good exit deal will become harder; he wants to make an example of us in ordered to quell anti-EU sentiment in his own country. If Le Pen wins, I expect the EU will become much more accommodating to our position; the future of the EU will literally depend on its ability to secure mutually agreeable deals with it's two biggest net contributors. It would collapse if there was no deal with the UK and France.

I can't believe I'm actually rooting for Le Pen...

 

[Gabbatek]

I don't, I expect that the labour manifesto will be disastrous, as it will either contain details of massive tax rises, or be a masterclass in economic insanity that will get torn apart.

Labour hinted at their housing policy this morning, basically making rent more expensive and reducing the number of available properties (if they regulate hard) or making no real change (if they don't).

I wouldn't be surprised to see labour drop below their 1983 performance at this rate.

I believe their housing pledge is about tackling dodgy landlords who rent out inadequate homes, for example covered in mould, failed repairs or in breach of health and safety.

 

[scorza]

The French Election is so important to us right now. If Macron wins, our job of securing a good deal will become harder; he wants to make an example of us in ordered to quell anti-EU sentiment in his own country. If Le Pen wins, I expect Brexit talks will get much easier; the EU will not survive if the UK and France leave without a deal.

Not necessarily, Macron is pro-business which would indicate to me that he'd be more favourable to a free-trade deal being done quickly to look after French exporters to the UK. If Le Pen wins then the EU lurches into its biggest crisis yet, demoting Brexit to a mere side-show. We all know Macron will win anyway, and don't get me wrong, I wish it to be Le Pen because I like France and what's going on there atm is heart-breaking and I think she's the only candidate with a chance of sorting it out.

 

[Rroff]

I'm not sure where Macron actually stands - some aspects he has been pro-EU but as far back as I remember he has also had the view that it needs reform but whether that is to try and appeal to the mood of the country also I'm not sure.

 

[Gabbatek]

https://www.thecanary.co/2017/04/30...ble-one-simple-observation-andrew-marr-video/

 

[Rroff]

https://www.thecanary.co/2017/04/30...ble-one-simple-observation-andrew-marr-video/

It was a zero sum game for her to respond directly to that question and kind of irrelevant really - and Corbyn makes that kind of dire claim before any kind of drastic action military or otherwise so its hardly something you can label as foresight.

The more pertinent aspect people should have taken from that interview was the way she rode roughshod over any aspect that didn't suit her vision of the way things should go and while granted there is some merit in the long term strengthening of the country/economy to fix some of the problems you can't just ignore the problems entirely with a vague promise that it will all get better eventually :|

 

[Tunney]

The EU are embarrassing themselves with this sort of statement. Personal attacks such as this makes me ashamed to have voted remain.

A failure to capitulate to the EU demands, or daring to have demands of our own, is not a negative.

Did you read the article? The problem here isn't that May's team has its own demands, the problem is that May's team has so little comprehension of the task that they're unable to make workable demands.

The EU wants a deal but worries that it won't be able to get one due to the goverment's incompetence.

 

[Dolph]

Did you read the article? The problem here isn't that May's team has its own demands, the problem is that May's team has so little comprehension of the task that they're unable to make workable demands.

The EU wants a deal but worries that it won't be able to get one due to the goverment's incompetence.

You think the eu position on Gibraltar, riding roughshod over the rights of the people who love there, is a workable demand?

The eu has tried to build a framework that gives them power, built around a series of unworkable or unrealistic positions not accepted by the other side of the negotiation. For them to now accuse may of making unworkable demands because they aren't compatible with the framework they want to impose is the height of hypocrisy.