Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

Who will you vote for?

  • Conservatives

  • Labour

  • Lib Dem

  • UKIP

  • Other (please state)

  • I won't be voting


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Labours manifesto is great, the Torys have just done a grand job of convincing the population that they need to suffer for the good of the country.
Turkeys voting for Christmas.

Maybe the Turkeys have just got wiser and realised that if they get all their feed at once there won't be any left when times are hard. It's alright promising the world but we need sustainability, economic growth, and efficiency from the money we have not just endless hand outs
 
Maybe the Turkeys have just got wiser and realised that if they get all their feed at once there won't be any left when times are hard. It's alright promising the world but we need sustainability, economic growth, and efficiency from the money we have not just endless hand outs

So what you are saying is that the Turkeys would rather vote for Christmas and be trussed and cooked now than been overfed now to starve in later years? :D
 
So two thirds of the country now support brexit and the tories are the most popular party across all social groups according to the latest polls.

I couldn't make this up lol

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/15/two-thirds-voters-now-support-brexit/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ph-orb-poll-conservatives-lead-across-social/

that two thirds supporting Brexit thing isn't exactly a new thing... as in it includes remain voters who think that Brexit should now happen because of the result of the referendum - this obviously isn't the same as asking people what they'd vote for if the referendum was to happen tomorrow
 
Brexit is stupid, damaging and being done for the wrong reasons. However, now that vote has happened, I do want the process to go ahead as quickly as possible.

That does not mean I am a Brexit 'supporter'. It's simply a matter of the sooner it happens, the sooner people will realise how they were misled, how stupid and damaging it is....and we can get on with the process of re-joining.
 
Labours manifesto is great, the Torys have just done a grand job of convincing the population that they need to suffer for the good of the country.
Turkeys voting for Christmas.

I think you might be slightly confused. Labours policies individually are mostly great. As a manifesto they are laughable.

This of course applies to real world. Not in some fairy tale utopia.
 
So looking at this poll, the nonvoting block should be 25% higher than it is, Libdems are 10% too high, Labour about 10% too low.

Polls are so optimistic, then voting day comes and a quarter of the population couldn't give a ****.
 
As you've identified, there's two ways to cut a deficit: cut spending or raise more money through taxes.

However, raising more through taxes doesn't necessarily mean raising taxes. Growing the economy has the same effect.

The problem with the Conservative's cuts is that they've stunted this country's economic growth, thus making it harder to close the deficit.

It's worth noting that neither the coalition or the tory majority government actually cut state spending. The cuts actually amounted to the cancellation of planned increases and shifting of spending around rather than a true reduction. Or to put it another way, they already factored growth in as part of the reduction plan.

In fact, actually increasing income through tax changes is very difficult, as history shows, the total tax take by gdp tends not to change that much however you apply the taxation. Likewise creating sustainable growth through borrowing requires more than spending, it requires investment, otherwise the growth only exists for as long as spending keeps growing. (And yes, the governments have all been bad at this regardless of flavour)
 
No point in investing if the Tory party is also killing the industry that we need by its unmitigated disaster of the digital economy with regards to our lovely surveillance infrastructure.
 
Labours manifesto is great, the Torys have just done a grand job of convincing the population that they need to suffer for the good of the country.
Turkeys voting for Christmas.

The single biggest problem facing labour is credibility. Many of the manifesto pledges would be hard for a party perceived as credible and capable of delivering, and Corbyn's labour party is far, far from that.

May can push the boat out a bit on policy (as seen with the workers rights announcements today) because she has credibility with the electorate (regardless of whether she deserves it, she has it). Thatcher was similar, not every policy was popular, but the ability to deliver them was believed (again, regardless of whether this is true), whereas labour did not have it.

Corbyn's claims around the economy are not credible, you can't increase corporation tax without it coming from the people, you can't go on a massive spending spree without it coming from the people or massive borrowing, and the public, while they may not be able to go through the details, understand this. The conservatives message of 'we believe in low tax, but are not making promises we can't guarantee' is a far more credible message.
 
Anti-Semitic?

All i can find is him being anti-Israel, which is a boring conflation that is supported only by pro-Israeli money.

Claiming to be anti Israel is also the antisemite variation of claiming to be anti immigration to hide your dislike of certain skin colours and make it appear acceptable.

Not all people who object to Israel are antisemitic, but let's not pretend that you can substitute Israel for jew and it be OK.
 


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Brexit is stupid, damaging and being done for the wrong reasons. However, now that vote has happened, I do want the process to go ahead as quickly as possible.

That does not mean I am a Brexit 'supporter'. It's simply a matter of the sooner it happens, the sooner people will realise how they were misled, how stupid and damaging it is....and we can get on with the process of re-joining.

Wishful thinking - IMO the UK's economy was going to grow regardless of which side won the referendum, it will likely carry on... (minor blips aside in the unfortunate event of a hard Brexit). As I said before the referendum whichever side wins will later point to this as vindication that they were correct - in this case leave has won and so the narrative a few years down the line will likely be that after some initial hiccups this was all a success. The idea of rejoining the EU any time soon - especially given what the EU is likely to become without the UK present to block certain things - is very unlikely, even in the unlikely event that Brexit becomes a complete disaster.
 
Claiming to be anti Israel is also the antisemite variation of claiming to be anti immigration to hide your dislike of certain skin colours and make it appear acceptable.

Not all people who object to Israel are antisemitic, but let's not pretend that you can substitute Israel for jew and it be OK.

Pfft I have a very low opinion of Israel and are against most of the things they are currently doing but no way am I anti Semitic. Seems like nowadays if you dare speak out one critism of Israel you are tagged with been anti Jew.
 
it includes remain voters who think that Brexit should now happen because of the result of the referendum

A smidgen over 50% is not a "result" lol. It's absolutely silly to ignore the actual margin of victory in a decision such as brexit. You might as well flip a coin lmao, "the result" is absolutely meaningless and just highlights that no one knows what's going on.

Anyone who thinks brexit should happen purely because of the "result of the referendum" is beyond stupid lmao - words cant even describe how utterly moronic that is.

Brexit is stupid
This. And anyone using "the brexit result" as an argument for their agendas is just as stupid as brexit lol.
 
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