They were originally remain voters so I'm inclined to agree with you.
Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th
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They were originally remain voters so I'm inclined to agree with you.
Indeed, my problem is the Israeli Government and their treatment of the Palestinians while they pursue an expansionist policy that makes the prospect of peace ever more unlikely. I fully recognise and support Israel's right to exist and recognise there are problems on both sides. I believe it can be argued the pro Israel position is achieving peace by having both a state of Palestine as well as a state of Israel. The aforementioned actions of the Israeli Government are diametrically opposed to this aim. I just don't believe this is sustainable, it's also a big injustice which breeds further resentment and violence on both sides.
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The Telegraph is wrong in stating that people who believe the government should implement the result of the referendum are also supporters of the outcome. Good to see they have rephrased the questions as well, I guess they assume their readers aren't going to bother clicking through to the actual YouGov page.
It's just The Express on bigger sheets of paper.
It's just The Express on bigger sheets of paper.
Why?
"Simply put, Theresa May is fishing in a massive lake of voters with very little competition. Meanwhile the other parties are splitting the Hard Remain vote among themselves, something that in the first past the post system only serves to make the Conservatives an even more formidable electoral machine."
Remainers are an endangered species.
Gosh, really! I'm glad you pointed that out, Dolph, because I had no idea
Actually, that wasn't me, but that's by-the-by. The only reason we're talking about the deficit is because of concern about the debt. The failed Tory plan to cut the deficit by 2015 was only there because of concern about the debt, so talking about deficit-reduction while ignoring its purpose makes no sense. The Tories have slashed the state, undermined local councils, driven millions in poverty, and thereby harmed the long term interests of the UK in order to meet a stated goal that they've failed to meet. They've not only failed on my terms, or any reasonable economic assessment, but on their own terms too.
More of the false narrative. Deficit reduction through cuts at a time of recession or recovery therfrom is an exercise in tail chasing, and doing it via tax rises is not much better. The whole approach is flawed from the start so asking if it would been have better if they did more of one bad thing or the other is missing the point. They shouldn't have been targeting the deficit at all; they should have been targeting growth, productivity, and recovery so that the UK's medium-to-long term debt issue could be dealt with in the medium-to-long term.
Thanks for quoting a bit of the article that I've already read, I guess. My comment was about how the Telegraph are framing the poll results to suit their agenda, and that it's not possible to determine people's feelings towards the issue from it.
You dont actually know?
Do you think they are going to give us back all the perks we have now? Whipping boys is how I expect us to be treated if we went crawling back (in the next 10 years at least)
People think that brexit is a better option than going against the will of the people.
Remainers have failed hard.
Thanks - dont take it so personally.
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Looking at the results just demonstrates how awful FPTP is.
I reckon a large part of labour voters would prefer lib Dems over tories.... And most likely the other way around too.
Add their votes together and you have more votes for parties with fairly similar ideals and objectives
I reckon a large part of labour voters would prefer lib Dems over tories.... And most likely the other way around too.
Add their votes together and you have more votes for parties with fairly similar ideals and objectives
The Lib Dems aren't really all that similar to a Corbyn led Labour. I would vote for the Lib Dems but wouldn't vote for Labour.
So basically just over half of all remain voters are stupid? Or are all leave voters stupid too... ergo 2/3rds of the entire country is stupid and clearly not on your 'higher intellectual plane'
?So basically just over half of all remain voters are stupid? Or are all leave voters stupid too... ergo 2/3rds of the entire country is stupid and clearly not on your 'higher intellectual plane'
That is not what I said at all, you seem to have twisted things based on your internal predispositions and then gone on about intellect without providing a rational argument to anything. I said the referendum and results are pointless I didn't say all voters are stupid lmao.
The conditions for stupidity were specified, but you have completely ignored them. I didn't say anyone was stupid, I merely said certain actions are stupid.
I specifically said it is stupid to take a side purely based on the marginal victory of the referendum - and that is definitively and undeniably an ignorant act. Taking a side based on no actual internal thought process, and only based on a marginal victory of some referendum is, absolutely stupid and ignorant. A marginal victory doesn't suddenly mean one option is right and the other is wrong.
I also specifically said it is stupid to use this marginal victory for purposes of reasoning in a discussion on leaving/remaining. You cant just disregard ALL the actual reasoning and thought process behind many remain voters just because slightly more people voted to leave lol.
But way to ignore and deny reality and some basic points and go off on a tangent about "intellect". It's always amazing to see.
What I said doesn't suggest that there aren't intellectuals on both sides. There are extremely intelligent people on both sides, much more than me lol.
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Hardly. More remainers now than when the referendum was held.........
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