Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

Who will you vote for?

  • Conservatives

  • Labour

  • Lib Dem

  • UKIP

  • Other (please state)

  • I won't be voting


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what are you on about, we were having our own convo about something which diverted a little bit. Stop being a child
 
Lib Dems - what is he smoking!? Fair enough lie to get into power but to deliberately alienate over half the country to start with (48% remainers down to about 22% now I think?) is a bit of a career breaker although fair play - he's sticking to party policy. Bit un-liberal about gay people though so a hypocrite.

Lib Dems seem to have totally stuffed it when they had a chance in a lifetime of making serious gains - they need to get some people on board with vision ASAP or they might actually lose ground if that is even possible at this point lol. They need to be going balls to the wall they really have nothing tangible to lose here and everything to gain.
 
Yeah, i used to be a labour voter, until i saw the ridiculous cycle it was. Labour inherited a budget surplus in the late 90's to then leave a peice of paper saying "there's no money left", they privatized the NHS with the rip off PFI deals which will eventually cost the taxpayer £450 billion, then they have the audacity to say the tories are dismantling the NHS and running our country into the ground, it's a joke, the tories are the evil ones eh..

The rip off PFI deals that the tories created you mean. The letter stating that there was no money after a GLOBAL financial crisis (but apparently it was all labours doing of course....)
 
The rip off PFI deals that the tories created you mean. The letter stating that there was no money after a GLOBAL financial crisis (but apparently it was all labours doing of course....)

Can you explain the difference between the deals, compare the John Major deals with Blair's. There was a year between the financial crisis and labour losing power, wasn't there? How was it that many countries managed to stave off large effects of the crisis due to running surplus's prior to the crash? Gordan Browns selling off of our gold comes to mind.

Although i'm not hard budget surplus guy, if a government runs surplus for too long , there will be no investment, but those years took the biscuit really.
 
There is no conflict in being pro animal welfare and eating meat.

You *STILL* haven't given the reasoning behind why you find this to be in conflict.

I would argue that taking life comes at the worst end of the scale of the treatment of animals which creates a direct conflict.
 
I scratch my head when people think debt is a bad thing. I scratch my head further when people blame Labour for the economic downturn when they were last in power - the one that happened to be global.

And who's been in power since.... country remaining stagnant the whole while as other economies not much different to our own are steadily recovering.

We need a fresh approach. This bunch have truly ballsed this country up. They've had their go, and nothing they've attempted has worked or had a positive impact on your average citizen.
 
Yeah, i used to be a labour voter, until i saw the ridiculous cycle it was. Labour inherited a budget surplus in the late 90's to then leave a peice of paper saying "there's no money left", they privatized the NHS with the rip off PFI deals which will eventually cost the taxpayer £450 billion, then they have the audacity to say the tories are dismantling the NHS and running our country into the ground, it's a joke, the tories are the evil ones eh..

Well, actually they are if you consider the small wealthy group they are pandering to.

Scum all around really.
 
Lib Dems seem to have totally stuffed it when they had a chance in a lifetime of making serious gains - they need to get some people on board with vision ASAP or they might actually lose ground if that is even possible at this point lol. They need to be going balls to the wall they really have nothing tangible to lose here and everything to gain.

Their strategy so far since May called the election has been very low key, I'd struggle to recall anything about them in recent weeks besides the media hounding Farron about his own views on gay relationships.

I was expecting them to heavily beat the Bremain drum, given the opposing stance from Tories and Labour. The amount of testicles said by the Bremain and Brexit camps in the lead up to the referendum was unbelievable, how the Tories have handled the result has been nothing short of an attempt of self-preservation (by individuals and the party) over stability of the country. Now we have had ~11 months of insight into how Brexit might pan out long term, I'm surprised that many don't want to re-think their Brexit vote.
 
I scratch my head when people think debt is a bad thing. I scratch my head further when people blame Labour for the economic downturn when they were last in power - the one that happened to be global.

Perhaps read what people blame Labour for better then?

Most people don't blame Labour for the downturn, that was, as you say, a global event.

What most people blame Labour for is the public spending crisis that was a consequence of that downturn, and arose because Labour were running deficits every year since 2002 during the boom. This meant that when the inevitable downturn came, the country was massively exposed and didn't have the flexibility in state finances to stimulate the economy, as it was already borrowing massive amounts to fund day to day expenses during the boom, so when the bust came, the deficit skyrocketed before anything had been done.

And the public spending choices Labour made and the resulting crisis when it turned out Gordon Brown was an idiot when he claimed to have eliminated boom and bust were entirely Labour's fault.
 
Meanwhile the Conservatives have gone from saying that they'll eliminate the deficit by 2015 to eliminating it by 2025 (i.e. not in the next parliament).

The Conservatives have only weakened the economy since taking power and as a result aren't raising the tax revenue they need to balance the books.
 
Yep, 6 years of hard cuts to services. The Brexit vote happened. Osbourne and Cameron left and the Teresa May and Philip Hammond said - "Forget what our party has been saying for 6 years, we've got to focus on Brexit now" and cutting the deficit went completely out the window.

Essentially it was 6 years of pointless cuts.
 
Yep, 6 years of hard cuts to services. The Brexit vote happened. Osbourne and Cameron left and the Teresa May and Philip Hammond said - "Forget what our party has been saying for 6 years, we've got to focus on Brexit now" and cutting the deficit went completely out the window.

Essentially it was 6 years of pointless cuts.

Can you point to the years where spending was cut?

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/custom_chart
 
The current polls in relation to the Lib Dems are very interesting. Their support appears to have reduced and is at the lowest point it has been all year. Yet, their membership numbers went through the roof when the election was called and i think are now higher than they have ever been. That is quite a stark contrast to the poll we have here.

Also, in my area i have seen more Lib Dem signs/posters in peoples gardens/on peoples houses than ever.
 
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