Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th
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You haven't explained how eating meat and being concerned with animal welfare are conflicted.
You've now re-iterated that you think they are, but have given no reasoning.
I shouldn't need to explain it. It's pretty obvious, isn't it.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/welfare
Death is pretty much the opposite to welfare.
Listen, i don't want to go down this route of lecturing people for eating meat. It's pointless.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/welfare
Death is pretty much the opposite to welfare.
Listen, i don't want to go down this route of lecturing people for eating meat. It's pointless.
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I think Labour has been summed up for me today by a life long Labour voter who is now in their retirement voting Tory: Corbyn pledges all this nationalisation et but where's he going to get the money? He'll borrow lots, tax the rich who will leave the country and stop paying any tax and put the country back decades. So because of Corbyn they are now voting Tory.
Can't say I disagree - I normally vote Labour but typically they get the country into debt, people vote Tory who then get us out of it a fair bit through unpopular means, then Labour get in and debt etc vicious circle.
UKIP make a bit more sense as they seem to have lost that 'edge' and are having to come up with meaningful policies now. They won't win but I can see them making gains.
Lib Dems - what is he smoking!? Fair enough lie to get into power but to deliberately alienate over half the country to start with (48% remainers down to about 22% now I think?) is a bit of a career breaker although fair play - he's sticking to party policy. Bit un-liberal about gay people though so a hypocrite.
Can't say I disagree - I normally vote Labour but typically they get the country into debt, people vote Tory who then get us out of it a fair bit through unpopular means, then Labour get in and debt etc vicious circle.
UKIP make a bit more sense as they seem to have lost that 'edge' and are having to come up with meaningful policies now. They won't win but I can see them making gains.
Lib Dems - what is he smoking!? Fair enough lie to get into power but to deliberately alienate over half the country to start with (48% remainers down to about 22% now I think?) is a bit of a career breaker although fair play - he's sticking to party policy. Bit un-liberal about gay people though so a hypocrite.
Yeah, i used to be a labour voter, until i saw the ridiculous cycle it was. Labour inherited a budget surplus in the late 90's to then leave a peice of paper saying "there's no money left", they privatized the NHS with the rip off PFI deals which will eventually cost the taxpayer £450 billion, then they have the audacity to say the tories are dismantling the NHS and running our country into the ground, it's a joke, the tories are the evil ones eh..
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LOL. Death is absolutely unconnected to welfare, unless the death was as a result of neglect or suffering.
Vets put down animals every day as an act of compassion.
Welfare is concerned with how the animal lived, and killing the animal in a humane way does not constitute cruelty. Death is a fact of life, as is the fact that some animals are food.
Fox hunting with hounds is an act of unnecessary cruelty, nothing more, nothing less. There would rightly be uproar if livestock bred for food were killed in such a barbaric manner.
That's why i said pretty much the opposite. Do you think that animal wants to killed?
Get off your high horse. I agree with the ban for god's sake, hence why i'm a vegetarian. i just pointed out how hilariously stupid people get about animals but don't have the same hysteria about children starving to death due to famine in Somalia.
Your argument is in essence that, "There are bigger problems to worry about".
So why is TM worrying about repealing the fox hunting ban when there's Brexit to worry about?
Can't have it both ways!
But i'm not saying that, there are things i like about the manifesto and there are some things i don't like, that's life. I'm just pointing out your irony, oh please think of the animals whilst chowing down to a steak
There is no conflict in being pro animal welfare and eating meat.
You *STILL* haven't given the reasoning behind why you find this to be in conflict.
Does he own his house? What did he say when you pointed out the new Tory death tax, and is he happy to lose his winter fuel allowance?
That's why I asked, in case it does.
Actually conditions for livestock are very much in the public consciousness, and things are improving. Why? Because meat eaters care about animal welfare, and don't want the animals to suffer in their name.
So nice try, but eating meat doesn't justify fox hunting. In this country most of us oppose unnecessary cruelty. Either for financial gain or for "sport". The dinosaurs are dying, and support for this medieval practice is dying with them.
And what are tories proposing on your animal welfare? Could it be mandatory cctv in all abattoirs?
When did i say eating meat justifies fox hunting, i've already told you i support the ban.
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