So you essentially live in a commuter town outside London.
A 3 bed semi in zone 6 is around £500k, what mortgage term would you need to be paying only £800 a month?
Answer - ~£2k with a 10% deposit
Well £70k is around £4k a month. Mortgage for 3 bed house in London would most certainly be north of £1k, unless stupid deposit was had. Travel? Well depends on location...
Put it this way, I don't earn £70k. Live just outside zone 6. 3 bed semi-detached.
Rough Monthly outgoings
£800 mortgage.
£180 council.
£80 Gas Water Electric
£120 Sky/phone/ internet/ Mobile
£250 a month train.
£80 insurances
£250 Food/ cleaning products/ etc.
£80 petrol (I do less than 10,000 miles a year)
That's £1,840, alright I eat fairly well and don't scrimp on the luxuries. Add in takeaways and few subscriptions for Netflix apple music etc. I'm at around the £2,000 mark.
So if i was on £70k I would be on £2,000 disposable, which would be nice.
However I probably slightly benefit from living somewhere where I can get a London wage and not London house prices. I recon you could probably add £500 to that just for living in London.
Yeah you aren't getting a mortgage for £800, Might as well put a 1 in front of it (and probably add some more on top for good measure), plus you would be in for an interesting ride once interest rates increase.
I didn't think £250 a month for food and toiletries and domestic products and all that was too bad?
A £70k salary as an individual means you're very well off, even in London. People who want to argue this confuse me.
I note the SNP abstained, wouldn't it be great if the SNP mp's had some gonads and did not obey, without question, the orders of Sturgeon, they are embarrassing.
Most definitely. Rich? Guess it depends on your definition of rich, but I personally wouldn't say so.
Yeah you aren't getting a mortgage for £800, Might as well put a 1 in front of it (and probably add some more on top for good measure)
Think I would know what I pay a month mortgage... o.O but excuse my inaccuracy, it's £885.19.
I didn't think £250 a month for food and toiletries and domestic products and all that was too bad?
p.s My house was bought for £325k... just incase people are using the £500k number. One station outside zone 6.
The definition of rich changes as people acquire more, obviously. Anybody can write a list that shows they are left with very little 'disposable' income from their £70k salary after they have spent a ton of cash on things that the majority would class as a luxury - all it means is that person can write a list and total up the lines. Acting as though a slight taxation increase on people earning more than £70k a year is somehow alienating the electorate is bonkers.
I was using the example of buying a house today, as you are using a hypothetical 70k salary.
Also 800 a month mortgage for 325k? Any Mortgate calculator will throw out a figure at least double that.
I don't know the history of that to be honest but someone just asked him that in the House of Commons.
SO an election thread turns into how much someone pays in London for a mortgage, and it isn't about the cost, its about pedantics.
Nice.
which taxrise for those on over 70K are we talking about btw?
Thanks for that.
doesn't always work that way though - simply increasing tax rates doesn't necessarily increase what the government gets in taxes both through avoidance/evasion and simply people deciding that it isn't worth it
when you're looking at people earning 70k then you're targeting some of the most productive people in our economy - we've already got plenty of people screwed by the 60% rate once they hit 100k. This is the area where you're targeting things like overtime and bonuses - the doctor who decides to work a Saturday clinic for extra pay etc..
the poor don't have much in the way of tax burden - I'm not really sure what that is even in relation to. Sure the NHS could do with more funding but frankly the cuts to benefits are a good thing and perhaps ought to go further still.
On the avoidance thing, I'm not sure an extra 5-10% tax would really make much difference to tax avoidance among people earning £70,000-£150,000. Of the rest, I doubt more than a few will go from paying tax to avoiding it. It's not like a good accountant is free.