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Where is TRESemmé getting political advice from?
Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th
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Wow currently 42% to the conservatives in the OCUK poll even if that is close to reality it will wipe out labour. Might be one of those votes that will shape a generation, if true then Corbyn will have a lot to answer for.
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I do wonder if we could see a lot of labour seats become lib dem seats this election, and lib dems become the new opposition? It's a stretch, but with Corbyn as leader, does it suddendly become feasible?
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Latest YouGov poll puts Conservative at 48%
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Fortunately it isn't an accurate representation of the general public. They do Facebook rather than forums, let alone technology based forums.
Also, if we learnt anything in 2016, it's don't believe the polls.
Also, if we learnt anything in 2016, it's don't believe the polls.
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Labour at 24, LDs at 12, and then UKIP spoil things as usual by being on 7 instead of 6
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I'd guess it depends on the motivations of voters in the close seat areas, I think in more liberal thinking areas (E.g. South West / East) I can see the Lib Dems taking some seats but the real area of movement will be the North I'd guess, I think that May was up in the North today is an indication that she expects to do well in up there. If I had to guess I'd see large parts of the North move blue, with a a scattering of Lib Dem posts in Southern towns and cities. Just IMHO.
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Map has always looked pretty blue due to the population spread but still shocking.
I doubt it will be quite get to 48% come election day though.
Projection is only 5 off Blair's 97 majority (which was achieved on only 43% of the vote though)
What exactly can I do about it? Unless I get into politics and have people around me with good money I can't do anything, if I could I would. Give me some ideas and I'll think about them, me voting when I don't agree with any isn't going to work.
unlikely, it is labour voters (or at least demographics who ought to be labour voters) who are typically apathetic
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I think apathy goes right across all demographics to be honest. It really does seem to be a case of choose your evil.
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At the very least you can vote. If everyone who thought the same as you did the same as you then you'd all make a difference.
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I guess the problem is he feels as one person he can't make any difference. It's fair to say of course collectively everyone can make a difference, but is he going to be the one that helps that happen and make the difference , or is he going to but a few who are spread thin across constiencies that are strong safe seats, and that actually make very little difference? It's not surprising people feel disillusioned.
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He can get involved. He can vote. He can persuade others to vote who do not vote. He can influence those who do vote to share the same opinion as he does. He can stand up for his views and ask people to vote for him to make a difference.
Apathy is incredibly powerful, but so is the desire for change. It takes a degree of planning to guarantee the former, and a huge effort to catalyse the latter. Disrupting the status quo is entirely possible, but sometimes just putting an X in your own box isn't enough. How much do people want it?
Apathy is incredibly powerful, but so is the desire for change. It takes a degree of planning to guarantee the former, and a huge effort to catalyse the latter. Disrupting the status quo is entirely possible, but sometimes just putting an X in your own box isn't enough. How much do people want it?
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Liberal Democrats. Although it might be more accurate to say I distrust them least. I have a rather jaded view of party politics and I couldn't honestly say I trust any party. Well, I suppose I'd trust a really extremist single issue nutjob party to stick to what they say they'd do, but that's a different type of trust. I'd trust a cornered rabid rat to bite me, but that doesn't mean I'd want it to or trust it with my health.
I think the best deal for the UK includes things like rights and at least some attempt to have at least enough security online for other countries to be willing and legally allowed to do business here. The current government wouldn't allow that. The UK is already deliberately so bad at online security that it fails minimum EU standards and the current government wants to make it much worse. It would be a risk for EU companies to allow information on their customers to be accessible from the UK, which would make it a risk for them to trade with the UK. A risk both in legal terms and in adverse publicity terms.
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Wow, look at the support for Lib Dems in this poll. Absolutely massive!
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This is going to be a tough one to decide, in terms of what's best for me and mine and whether to vote tactically. Also think before answering the poll I want to see the manifestos put forward by the main parties.
As I commented in the SC thread, have no love for left wing policies or a socialist agenda when it comes to items such as immigration and law and order. However if the country returns a Tory government this time it's going to be unlike any we have known for a generation. With an increased majority and in two years time freed from the restraints in place by membership of the EU, I fear greatly for workers' rights, pensions (both state and occupational), there will be an all out assault on the public sector with fast track privatisation and - in the absence of EU protection - no TUPE or similar to rely on. That fear (to me) is more real than the likelihood of a slightly increased tax burden under Labour or a Lab/Lib government, especially as I'm hoping to retire in just over two years time.
So at this stage the answer is, "not conservative", the problem being that the last Swindon Labour MP didn't have a very good rep and I think it would be very hard to unseat the resident Tories. Ergo it boils down to tactical voting which in Swindon would probably be Labour. However this is one election where the opposition parties should set aside their differences and agree in marginal seats to field just one candidate with the best chance, rather than split the vote and the Tory gets in by default.
As I commented in the SC thread, have no love for left wing policies or a socialist agenda when it comes to items such as immigration and law and order. However if the country returns a Tory government this time it's going to be unlike any we have known for a generation. With an increased majority and in two years time freed from the restraints in place by membership of the EU, I fear greatly for workers' rights, pensions (both state and occupational), there will be an all out assault on the public sector with fast track privatisation and - in the absence of EU protection - no TUPE or similar to rely on. That fear (to me) is more real than the likelihood of a slightly increased tax burden under Labour or a Lab/Lib government, especially as I'm hoping to retire in just over two years time.
So at this stage the answer is, "not conservative", the problem being that the last Swindon Labour MP didn't have a very good rep and I think it would be very hard to unseat the resident Tories. Ergo it boils down to tactical voting which in Swindon would probably be Labour. However this is one election where the opposition parties should set aside their differences and agree in marginal seats to field just one candidate with the best chance, rather than split the vote and the Tory gets in by default.
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