Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

Who will you vote for?

  • Conservatives

  • Labour

  • Lib Dem

  • UKIP

  • Other (please state)

  • I won't be voting


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Whereas he's opposed to all sexism and says that "I believe in equality where gender should be irrelevant". So he's not a "male rights advocate".

In other words, he's in favour of sexual equality and she's in favour of sexism. So blatantly in favour of sexism that she's openly campaigning on the basis that male people aren't worthy of equality (that's what the party she represents is all about, hence the name of it) and that if she's elected she will exclude male people from consideration - she'll be a representative of women only.

A woman I know is a member of - and campaigns for - these clowns. The views she throws around are absolutely mental. Things like it should be illegal for there to be separate women's and men's sports (all football and rugby clubs to have teams of equal numbers of women and men), business should be forced to appoint equal numbers of both sexes at all levels regardless of ability, and the really crazy one: women should be allowed to take as much time off as they want to look after children up to age 16 but still receive a full-time salary.
 
A woman I know is a member of - and campaigns for - these clowns. The views she throws around are absolutely mental. Things like it should be illegal for there to be separate women's and men's sports (all football and rugby clubs to have teams of equal numbers of women and men), business should be forced to appoint equal numbers of both sexes at all levels regardless of ability, and the really crazy one: women should be allowed to take as much time off as they want to look after children up to age 16 but still receive a full-time salary.

If you reword that as "one parent should..." it might solve our slowing birth rates and prop up the pension schemes again... would be quite a nasty tax on small businesses mind.

More directly on topic, I've flip flopped on this poll back to Labour over Lib Dem, Corbyn's policies, ignoring Brexit, interest me if he can make them work economically.
 
A woman I know is a member of - and campaigns for - these clowns. The views she throws around are absolutely mental. Things like it should be illegal for there to be separate women's and men's sports (all football and rugby clubs to have teams of equal numbers of women and men), business should be forced to appoint equal numbers of both sexes at all levels regardless of ability, and the really crazy one: women should be allowed to take as much time off as they want to look after children up to age 16 but still receive a full-time salary.

looked up that clown myself yesterday. she ran for london mayor the other year. to me seems like just another political careerist looking for a job. she's found her special thing and is now going to use it to get a job anywhere.
 
Is Corbyn still saying that he wouldn't use Trident under any circumstances? There's no point having a deterrent if you say you'll never use it. I think if he became PM then he'd definitely get rid of all the UK's nuclear weapons.

Is it really relevant? The next GE is 2022, the UK is not going to be invaded between now and then, it simply isn't going to happen. The world is currently about as stable/peaceful as it's ever been (it just seems scary due to the internet meaning people actually know what's happening outside their town) and so having a pacifist as PM isn't actually as dangerous/bad as the Tories make out. And he wouldn't have the power to get rid of the UK's nuclear weapons or even cancel Trident anyway.
 
If you reword that as "one parent should..." it might solve our slowing birth rates and prop up the pension schemes again... would be quite a nasty tax on small businesses mind.

More directly on topic, I've flip flopped on this poll back to Labour over Lib Dem, Corbyn's policies, ignoring Brexit, interest me if he can make them work economically.

I'm not convinced he can make them work economically, that's the problem. He wants more money for our services (And it does look like they need it at the moment), but he's very quiet on tax bar the "we want the rich to pay" slogans. IMO both the middle and high income earners are going to need to pay more in the medium term if we want to stop our services failing without borrowing loads more money again. I was incredulous that the Labour party seemed to be accusing the Tories of being the ones who would raise taxes, how do Labour expect to pay for our services? Or does he think that the money saved on Trident (Which the Labour party has officially supported) will cover it if he has his way?

Also why is he advocating another 4 bank holidays when this is a devolved power and as a nation we have a relatively poor output/capita already?

If he was honest (which I don't think he is) and said we want to do this and we're going to pay for it by doing this (And the old just tax the richest mantra isn't credible IMO) then I would be more supportive.
 
I'm not convinced he can make them work economically, that's the problem. He wants more money for our services (And it does look like they need it at the moment), but he's very quiet on tax bar the "we want the rich to pay" slogans. IMO both the middle and high income earners are going to need to pay more in the medium term if we want to stop our services failing without borrowing loads more money again. I was incredulous that the Labour party seemed to be accusing the Tories of being the ones who would raise taxes, how do Labour expect to pay for our services? Or does he think that the money saved on Trident (Which the Labour party has officially supported) will cover it if he has his way?

Also why is he advocating another 4 bank holidays when this is a devolved power and as a nation we have a relatively poor output/capita already?

If he was honest (which I don't think he is) and said we want to do this and we're going to pay for it by doing this (And the old just tax the richest mantra isn't credible IMO) then I would be more supportive.

Agreed, it's the big concern, I voted conservative in 2015 as they had the stronger economic argument and things had been looking somewhat positive under the coalition, however, I can't possibly vote for the current May cabinet.
 
Is it really relevant? The next GE is 2022, the UK is not going to be invaded between now and then, it simply isn't going to happen. The world is currently about as stable/peaceful as it's ever been (it just seems scary due to the internet meaning people actually know what's happening outside their town) and so having a pacifist as PM isn't actually as dangerous/bad as the Tories make out. And he wouldn't have the power to get rid of the UK's nuclear weapons or even cancel Trident anyway.

Says who? extremely unlikely but not going to happen as an absolute is complacency at best - one thing history has shown us is that no matter how stable and peaceful it is the geopolitical landscape can change dramatically in the blink of an eye sometimes triggered by the smallest of things.

You don't build a lasting peace by being complacent or naive.
 
Says who? extremely unlikely but not going to happen as an absolute is complacency at best - one thing history has shown us is that no matter how stable and peaceful it is the geopolitical landscape can change dramatically in the blink of an eye sometimes triggered by the smallest of things.

You don't build a lasting peace by being complacent or naive.

His main failing in this whole thing is opening his mouth - had he just stayed tight lipped the "threat" of having them and using them exists. But publically stating I wouldn't use them is a self defeating exercise. I'm sure anyone in power if forced to consider pressing the button would potentially not do it - you don't go round telling everyone though
 
His main failing in this whole thing is opening his mouth - had he just stayed tight lipped the "threat" of having them and using them exists. But publically stating I wouldn't use them is a self defeating exercise. I'm sure anyone in power if forced to consider pressing the button would potentially not do it - you don't go round telling everyone though

Yeah indeed that is the whole point - but also ultimately it is about doing the best for the country even if it doesn't sit well ideologically wise you might have to make that personal sacrifice for the country and sooner or later as PM its likely you will have to do that like it or not - if you can't stomach it don't put yourself inline for the position :s honestly anyone voting Labour while that man is leader is insane.

I don't like Theresa May but I respect her for standing up with the resolve she did over Trident as that probably did more for long term peace and stability for this country than anything else.
 
His main failing in this whole thing is opening his mouth - had he just stayed tight lipped the "threat" of having them and using them exists.

Like I said previously though it's a non issue, if elected he would serve five years, nobody is going to nuke the UK in the next five years, and if by some ludicrous stretch of the imagination they did then they would also have fired on America/France so would be obliterated by the counterattack anyway. There's also the fact that in a first strike London would be a prime target so with Corbyn dead whoever takes charge could order the launch of our nukes regardless.

There are numerous reasons to not vote for Corbyn, but Trident/nukes are not valid ones.
 
I think Corbyn's main problem is that he's main supporters are the left wing activists and trade unions, but Labour is not a credible electable party unless they can pull in center ground voters, so he prefers not to speak about key topics which would enrage either the left wing or the slightly left of centre.

Personally while I believe that the unions are important, what is really important for us as a country is having the right balance between employee and employer rights. Just as Thatcher IMO went too far in neutering the unions, Corbyn wants to swing the balance too far in the other direction (Which is the situation which created Thatcher policies in the first place).

I just don't think he understands how important the center ground voters are which is one reason I think that even if the Lib Dems don't get as many seats as Labour in this election, they may get more votes..
 
Especially since his opinion is no different from quite a few high level generals who all call the Trident deterrent "useless" and a "waste of money"
 
Like I said previously though it's a non issue, if elected he would serve five years, nobody is going to nuke the UK in the next five years, and if by some ludicrous stretch of the imagination they did then they would also have fired on America/France so would be obliterated by the counterattack anyway. There's also the fact that in a first strike London would be a prime target so with Corbyn dead whoever takes charge could order the launch of our nukes regardless.

There are numerous reasons to not vote for Corbyn, but Trident/nukes are not valid ones.

You are looking at it one dimensionally - for instance say the US suffers a massive natural catastrophe - which isn't improbable though fairly low likelihood - several of the potential ones towards the upper end of the scale would necessitate them withdrawing from global affairs to deal with the disaster at home - our nuclear deterrent could be crucial for maintaining the balance of peace and dissuading countries like Russia from making opportunistic land grabs, etc. in the meantime and so on.
 
Is it really relevant? The next GE is 2022, the UK is not going to be invaded between now and then, it simply isn't going to happen. The world is currently about as stable/peaceful as it's ever been (it just seems scary due to the internet meaning people actually know what's happening outside their town) and so having a pacifist as PM isn't actually as dangerous/bad as the Tories make out. And he wouldn't have the power to get rid of the UK's nuclear weapons or even cancel Trident anyway.

When directly asked He said he wouldn't come to the aid of a Nato ally if they were attacked by say Russia. I know he's never been a fan of nato but to go against one of key policies ie an attack on one member is considered an attack on all is quite dangerous from someone who could be PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...as-jeremy-corbyn-endorses-rival-labour-confe/

It's one of the many reasons I can't vote for Labour with him in charge.
 
You are looking at it one dimensionally - for instance say the US suffers a massive natural catastrophe - which isn't improbable though fairly low likelihood - several of the potential ones towards the upper end of the scale would necessitate them withdrawing from global affairs to deal with the disaster at home - our nuclear deterrent could be crucial for maintaining the balance of peace and dissuading countries like Russia from making opportunistic land grabs, etc. in the meantime and so on.

Yes. Yellowstone blowing its top is the big one, of course. The other big possible is a trade war with Europe going nasty; remember that France has nukes.
 
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