Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

Who will you vote for?

  • Conservatives

  • Labour

  • Lib Dem

  • UKIP

  • Other (please state)

  • I won't be voting


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Energy is balls anyway, because they are all providing the same thing. It's not even like it's similar, it's literally the same thing from the same places delivered by the same infrastructure. There should be no competition because there is basically nothing to compete over. It's utter nonsense.

Profit, sir. You're forgetting profit. :p
 
Energy is balls anyway, because they are all providing the same thing. It's not even like it's similar, it's literally the same thing from the same places delivered by the same infrastructure. There should be no competition because there is basically nothing to compete over. It's utter nonsense.

Quite, and use of 'units' of electricity, should be defined by the production rate. Madness that anyone can setup a company anywhere and randomly assign a value to their sell on price, then try to baffle people with so many different tariffs they don't know which to choose.
 
Quite, and use of 'units' of electricity, should be defined by the production rate. Madness that anyone can setup a company anywhere and randomly assign a value to their sell on price, then try to baffle people with so many different tariffs they don't know which to choose.

I'm surprised Ofgem isn't the one providing the definitions and keeping them in line. Are all our regulators toothless pansies, or just energy?
 
I'm surprised Ofcom isn't the one providing the definitions and keeping them in line. Are all our regulators toothless pansies, or just energy?

That would be Ofgem.
Ofcom are the ones that allow them to charge us £21 a month line rental for phones we don't need, and have no desire to use, yet couple BS broadband with other packages.
It is only now they've forced them all into advertising rates which include their BS line rental charge as part of the package.

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That would be Ofgem.
Ofcom are the ones that allow them to charge us £21 a month line rental for phones we don't need, and have no desire to use, yet couple BS broadband with other packages.
It is only now they've forced them all into advertising rates which include their BS line rental charge as part of the package.

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Haha! I was thinking ad standards as well, tbf. They are two sides of the same coin: information and market regulation. Decisions rely on the quality of information supplied and its clarity. Market regulation levels the playing field, so fewer dodges and complex products are possible. We have to get a grip on both, really. Then perhaps cruder measures won't be needed from the left or the right. Doubt there's much appetite for sorting that atm, however. It's a powerful lobby to boot.
 
What makes you think the EU will give a **** about whether May gets in with 1 or 100 seat majority? This is a domestic election. The EU is in a strong position as the UK wants single market or something close to it. The UK can walk away and the country will go down and the EU knows it.
No, they are trying to scared the people of this country, if the UK goes down so does a lot of southern countries, it will also mean a retraction in UK army in the EU. this would force the EU countries to add more money into the pot which they don't have. The EU are bluffing, and will end up with egg on their face.
 
No, they are trying to scared the people of this country, if the UK goes down so does a lot of southern countries, it will also mean a retraction in UK army in the EU. this would force the EU countries to add more money into the pot which they don't have. The EU are bluffing, and will end up with egg on their face.

Don't tell me ........ its 'Project Fear' again. Haven't had that for a few pages. The UK army is in Europe as part of NATO not the EU and as such will not move unless there is a reduction all round but as we have just committed more to Eastern Europe that seems unlikely.
 
But you do buy some things though yes? In which case you have had a tax rise. Unless all you ever buy is food and clothing.
 
Don't tell me ........ its 'Project Fear' again. Haven't had that for a few pages. The UK army is in Europe as part of NATO not the EU and as such will not move unless there is a reduction all round but as we have just committed more to Eastern Europe that seems unlikely.


if as you say "the country goes down" fulfilling our nato obligations will likley be on the list of things on the budget chopping block.
 
He's not a terrorist sympathiser. It was taken out of context because he wanted both sides to join in talks/negotiations and said something a long the lines of friends come together.

You should judge people on recent activity not crap that happened years ago which is completely irrelevant to now.

If my friends and family judged me on stuff I did many years ago I'd be a seen as a psychopath.

but even recently he's refused to condemn IRA violence - see the BBC interview posted earlier where he acted like a politician does when confronted with a really controversial question when it really should have been a simple one
 
In another example (albeit this time not refusing to condone terrorism) he's refused to be drawn into even whether he'd order the ISIS leader killed:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ght-not-authorise-strike-against-isil-leader/

this is a weak man, he can't provide adequate leadership to his now party, most of his MPs dislike him and have little confidence in him, the idea of him leading a coalition is therefore pretty bonkers
 
In another example (albeit this time not refusing to condone terrorism) he's refused to be drawn into even whether he'd order the ISIS leader killed:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ght-not-authorise-strike-against-isil-leader/

this is a weak man, he can't provide adequate leadership to his now party, most of his MPs dislike him and have little confidence in him, the idea of him leading a coalition is therefore pretty bonkers

This is the attitude with the left today "don't bomb them, you'll make them mad" total and utter capitulation.

Hes probably spot on with the use of nukes though.
 
Let's put it this way: if he wants a political solution involving Assad, then that's who's going to be doing the killing. Whether that's more or less dead than a drone strike depends on where said terrorist leader is located and the people he's using as meat-shields. His wider point has always been along the lines of how we've handled the IRA around these parts. Quite a bit more Machiavellian - and I use this term in relation to Corbyn with a chortle - than what people give him credit for.
 
Wow, car crash interview from tim farron on ITV, asked about whether gay sex was a sin, refused to answer and made to look like homophobic by Micheal Gove...

Which is an obvious lie, but a politically useful one.

Anyone who cared about evidence would look at at that evidence, e.g. Tim Farron's voting record on relevant votes, what he's said about relevant political and social things.

Here, for example, is what Tim Farron said about his views regarding homosexuality:

As a liberal, I’m passionate about equality, and equal marriage, about equal rights for LGBT people, for fighting not just for LGBT rights in this country, but overseas.

Tim Farron

His voting record backs that up. His public speaking backs that up. Everything backs that up. That there above is Tim Farron's views, no doubt about it.

Tim Farron's position is that politicians shouldn't be making theological statements and rulings in a political context. He thinks that religion should not be part of politics. I think he's completely right about that and admire him for sticking to it even when people abuse it to lie about him to sway politics and/or get views/clicks for advertising revenue.

It's unfortunate that so many people are so eager to lie about him and to spread disinformation about him.
 
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Also, what did Tim actually say in response to the question?

"I’m not in a position to go making theological pronouncements.”

He's genuinely serious about keeping religion and politics seperate. He might or might not regard homosexual sex as a sin. It doesn't matter because whatever he does or doesn't believe about religion has nothing to do with his politics. If you were voting for whether or not he became Archbishop of Canterbury it would be relevant. If you're voting for whether or not he becomes Prime Minister it's irrelevant. He keeps his religion and his politics completely seperate.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39683982

Leader of the "Women's Equality Party" to run against male rights advocate MP in Shipley. If she wins she claims she'd be a "voice for all women in Westminster".

Whereas he's opposed to all sexism and says that "I believe in equality where gender should be irrelevant". So he's not a "male rights advocate".

In other words, he's in favour of sexual equality and she's in favour of sexism. So blatantly in favour of sexism that she's openly campaigning on the basis that male people aren't worthy of equality (that's what the party she represents is all about, hence the name of it) and that if she's elected she will exclude male people from consideration - she'll be a representative of women only.
 
By not buying pointless expensive crap? *shrugs* In the last few years i haven't been the consumer whore that i used to be.

Not buying useless expensive crap only means you're avoiding useless expensive crap. It doesn't mean you've avoided VAT.

Bottom line: unless you have never paid VAT in the last 7 years, you have definitely experienced a rise in taxation under the Tories.
 
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