Porsche 996 Turbo - Any buying tips and what do people know about these?

dirtydog · 25 Jan 2007 at 17:45

[TW]Fox said:
I don't get the OcUK obsession with buying houses. Sure, eventually, its important, but if cars are your hobby why sacrifice it to buy something you don't currently want? Houses are, generally, dreary. Boring, dull, expensive to run.

I don't think people buy houses, or indeed rent them, for 'fun' or for a hobby - but as somewhere to live, funnily enough

That said, I'd rather drive an old car and have my own gaff than have a Porsche and live with my parents. But each to his own.

Ev0 · 25 Jan 2007 at 17:53

I recently bought a house instead of an M3, gutted lol.

After thinking things through seemed the sensible thing to do, in a years time who know what will happen to house prices, but I know I'd be a good few thousand down on buying the M3.

But know I've got the house the fun can begin, soon

And buy the 911, no contest

Simon · 25 Jan 2007 at 18:23

[TW]Fox said:
I don't get the OcUK obsession with buying houses. Sure, eventually, its important, but if cars are your hobby why sacrifice it to buy something you don't currently want? Houses are, generally, dreary. Boring, dull, expensive to run. One day I am sure Gibbo will find someone he wants to spend the rest of his life with but until then I see no real reason why he can't enjoy his cars.

You wait, give it 2 or 3 years and I bet you're thinking different.

jamoor · 25 Jan 2007 at 18:29

[TW]Fox said:
I don't get the OcUK obsession with buying houses. Sure, eventually, its important, but if cars are your hobby why sacrifice it to buy something you don't currently want? Houses are, generally, dreary. Boring, dull, expensive to run. One day I am sure Gibbo will find someone he wants to spend the rest of his life with but until then I see no real reason why he can't enjoy his cars.

Ok, a house is an investment and a car isn't but looking at a spreadsheet showing assets isn't quite as exciting as pushing a 911 Turbo around Oulton Park, is it?

Once you take the plunge and get a house your days of ridiculous cars are over for the short term. Enjoy them whilst you can.

Some of you might be more than happy to spend most of your income paying bills and mortgage rates to live in a house all on your own. Others might not find that quite so exciting.

Plus there is always the girlfriends place to go back to

It totally depends on what your into, I love making money, it's an addiction, I probbably don't even have much use for money apart from to make money.

I wouldnt sacrifice a good car over a nice house, the way I see it is, why buy a porsche 996 now for 30k when you can make more money and get a carrera GT instead?

jamoor · 25 Jan 2007 at 18:32

dirtydog said:
I don't think people buy houses, or indeed rent them, for 'fun' or for a hobby - but as somewhere to live, funnily enough That said, I'd rather drive an old car and have my own gaff than have a Porsche and live with my parents. But each to his own.

Believe me, some people do, my mum used to love buying houses fixing them up and renting them up, in fact it was her only hobby and past time, except for looking after her kids.
She worked her own hours and made loads more than any other paper pusher in an office.
She ended up accumulating 6 houses in total, all of them bought before the boom, or just as it started.

Simon · 25 Jan 2007 at 18:32

jamoor said:
I wouldnt sacrifice a good car over a nice house, the way I see it is, why buy a porsche 996 now for 30k when you can make more money and get a carrera GT instead?

That's the spirit.

A nice car is great, not so great when you take your hot new chick you used the car to get to your bedroom dodging your mum and dad.

willd58 · 25 Jan 2007 at 18:38

[TW]Fox said:
I don't get the OcUK obsession with buying houses. Sure, eventually, its important, but if cars are your hobby why sacrifice it to buy something you don't currently want? Houses are, generally, dreary. Boring, dull, expensive to run. One day I am sure Gibbo will find someone he wants to spend the rest of his life with but until then I see no real reason why he can't enjoy his cars.

Your right, jumping on people for still living with there parents is very sad, especially when you look at some of the houses people buy, or even rent, whilst they preach about moving out. I'm stuck in a groggy student house in a fairly bad area and would never choose it over living with my parents if it wasn't a student house. I stuck my ore in on the off topic discussion because people are trying to claim buying a house is boring, when it clearly isn't, if you've got the money to do it right.

Simon said:
You wait, give it 2 or 3 years and I bet you're thinking different.

Not if hes still living with his parents, you can only miss something or realize the difference something like independence makes until you've actually experienced it and then gone back to not having it, but then, who in there right mind would sacrifice living in a lovely house with non interfering parents you get on with, who let you do whatever the hell you want (including let you have as many friends over as you'd like as well as being liberal as hell and asking you about your sex life with whatever girl your with at the time) to go and live in a grotty house in a bad area, with probably no where to park the rubbish car you've got to put up with because your now renting or buying the rubbish house!

If life with your parents sucks, then by all means move out, for some people its simply awesome, I think allot of people on here don't get that.

Scuzi · 25 Jan 2007 at 18:44

How about we move the house discussion to General Discussion where it belongs, and bring this thread back on topic.

jamoor · 25 Jan 2007 at 18:52

willd58 said:
Your right, jumping on people for still living with there parents is very sad,

Who is doing that anyway? I made a comment on putting money into a house rather than a bank account and its gone way out of control. We should shift over to GD

willd58 · 25 Jan 2007 at 18:59

jamoor said:
Who is doing that anyway? I made a comment on putting money into a house rather than a bank account and its gone way out of control. We should shift over to GD

It happens allot when people wanna make snide comments about certain members.

Gibbo · 25 Jan 2007 at 19:15

Jez said:
To be fair, the people saying that buying houses is boring are people who live in dodgy area's. Not suprised, i wouldnt want a house in stoke either

On topic, the 996 is a gorgeous car. And as much as i like american muscle, i would take the porsche every time. A Porsche 996 Turbo X50 or not is something a lot of people go their entire lives wanting, you'd be mad not go for that if you are in the position to afford to buy and maintain one.

HI there

I don't live in Stoke at the moment and I certainly would not buy a house in Stoke either. If I was to buy a house now it would be Congleton or Alsager area but at the moment I have no need too. When I go out clubbin/drinkin its always away from home anyway and as such taking women back has never been an issue, but its always easier to just go back theirs.

Plus my parents are fantastic, I get on great with them and they don't have issues with mates or girls coming round. Then there is the benefits are not having to do my own ironing, muhahaha.
Plus I do get the place to myself for long stints when my parents decide to go off holidaying for weeks on end.

Anyway there is more talk about houses in this thread than cars. At the moment I have no plans to get a house, if that changes in the future then so be it but whatever car I own at that time I shall be keeping as ownership of the Mustang soaks very little of my income up. My next car will not soak any more up either as I shall sell the Mustang and then put 15-20k of savings towards my next purchase. Then that way if I do decide to get a house I can keep whatever car I have.

I hope thats the house talk done with now, when I need advice on a mortgage I shall post in GD or maybe here considering the response.

Agreed I really want an X50, but whatever I get I shall play with it anywhere as its something I just cannot resist to do. This is not something I am doing now I just like to plan in advance.

Fr0dders · 25 Jan 2007 at 19:32

Gibbo said:
Agreed I really want an X50, but whatever I get I shall play with it anywhere as its something I just cannot resist to do. This is not something I am doing now I just like to plan in advance.

bit like me

i've already been scouring auto trader for what i want my next car to be

im not going to be buying till 2009 lol

JediFragger · 25 Jan 2007 at 20:27

Gibbo said:
I don't live in Stoke at the moment and I certainly would not buy a house in Stoke either

And WHAT is exactly wrong with Stoke dude? This better be good... :mad:

Fatboy · 25 Jan 2007 at 21:08

JediFragger said:
And WHAT is exactly wrong with Stoke dude? This better be good...

I have made 100% profit on my investment in stoke if not more. I made the right decision at the right time.

Back to the cars though. You know how I feel about the mustang I will be very sad to see it go whenever you make the choice it's just one of the nicest cars I have seen and very unique and very very god damn quick.

I really like the porka's but It just does not say "gibbo" to me. Great car, great spec and excellent value for money. However it is not going to turn heads like the Mustang and probably won't be as quick. You don't track or race and i think that you will miss the head turning factor of the mustang. Running costs are not really relevant as you love cars and they are you number one hobby, it is not going to make a blind bit of difference if tyres cost £200 or £250 or even what the servicing costs or intervals are.

If your head is in a 911 turbo go for it. But I think your heart is thinking otherwise.

Gibbo · 25 Jan 2007 at 21:33

Fatboy said:
I have made 100% profit on my investment in stoke if not more. I made the right decision at the right time.

Back to the cars though. You know how I feel about the mustang I will be very sad to see it go whenever you make the choice it's just one of the nicest cars I have seen and very unique and very very god damn quick.

I really like the porka's but It just does not say "gibbo" to me. Great car, great spec and excellent value for money. However it is not going to turn heads like the Mustang and probably won't be as quick. You don't track or race and i think that you will miss the head turning factor of the mustang. Running costs are not really relevant as you love cars and they are you number one hobby, it is not going to make a blind bit of difference if tyres cost £200 or £250 or even what the servicing costs or intervals are.

If your head is in a 911 turbo go for it. But I think your heart is thinking otherwise.

HI m8

The Mustang is a very unique car. My thoughts for wanting a Porsche is based on the fact I like the looks, though I know there not head turning but to me I like them and I am buying the car for myself and not what other people may think or how many heads it might turn. The big bonus of the Porsche is what it can do, its a true A-B weapon its 4WD and handling abilities make it a great car for all year round use and one where you can use the power. So now your probably thinking well why not get an EVO FQ340 and modify it or a Subaru Type 25, well I've been considering those too, just they don't really do it for me in the looks department and I suspect a Porka Turbo is a damn site quicker and a much nicer place to be.

Running cost well I am fine with tyres costing £250 corner, never had an issue with that as thats what the Mustang cost, so that don't bother me.
Would just be nice to know service intervals, when major services are and how much they cost. I have money but I don't like wasting it as I am always on the look out for the best deal and you know that m8.

As much as I love the Mustang it can get annoying at times when I can't even use a 1/3 of its power in poor road conditions due to the sheer torque at such low rpm/speeds. Many people really like the idea of a car that you can break the rear-end loose at will and yes it is fun but at times I wish I had a 4WD switch for when roads are bad but I still want to drive quick.

For me the Porsche offers a major improvement over the Mustang and thats basically the fact it can put its power down and it will handle better on our UK roads. However the Mustang does win in the looks department, the noise department, the grin factor department and the acceleration department, I really love the car. I'd keep it forever if I could but then I think its better to just keep changing cars regular as that way I get myself in many different motors and build up good experience and knowledge of cars.

Ollie's Gadgets · 25 Jan 2007 at 21:43

Have you considered a Litchfield Subaru Impreza Type−25 (£39,995 New) or is this not your type of car?

Evo ran a track test of some of the fastest cars they have driven for their 1000 magazine celebration.

Evo Magazine Bedford West Circuit Lap times
McLaren F1 - 1:21.20
Ferrari Enzo - 1:21.30
Subaru Impreza Type-25 - 1:22.25
Lotus Exige S - 1:22.40
Ford GT - 1:22.75
Koenigsegg CCX - 1:22.30
Lamborghini Gallardo MY06 - 1:22.80
Porsche 911 (997) Turbo - 1:23.55
Mitsubishi Evo IX FQ340 - 1:24.55
Audi RS4 - 1:28.25
BMW M3 CS - 1:29.80

Fifth gear really raved about it YouTube

If you are after a fast A to B car then nothing is going to be faster for your budget.

Fatboy · 25 Jan 2007 at 21:44

Gibbo said:
I'd keep it forever if I could but then I think its better to just keep changing cars regular as that way I get myself in many different motors and build up good experience and knowledge of cars.

I will be very sad to see it go m8, I know you have to make a choice but I love the mustang. You are right the 911 will be more driver friendly and better suited to UK weather.

But you have two cars the BMW comes out when the weather is bad. How many cars have 666 as a build number and how many have you strapped a supercharger to.

Not saying it is the wrong choice but you really do have somethin very special in the mustang.

Also Uncle Kelvin may kick off if he finds out the beast is going.

[TW]Fox · 25 Jan 2007 at 22:22

Simon said:
You wait, give it 2 or 3 years and I bet you're thinking different.

I don't know about 2 years, I'll barely have finished Uni, but give it 5 and I agree with you. I WILL be thinking totally differently, and will be right into the whole house thing.

So why not thoroughly enjoy great cars in the meantime without people on OcUK going OMFG LOLZ PARENTS LOLZ LIVING ON YOUR OWN MEANS U IS NOT *** GEEKZ!11111!ONETHREE.

People make their own choices and have their own reasons for doing so. Personally, I'm not moving out until I am ready to make a life with someone I wish to spend the rest of my life with, who may or may not be my current partner but only time will tell. Perhaps Gibbo is the same. If he's got the disposable income and he enjoys splashing it provided he's not digging himself into big debt, then why not?

Gibbo · 25 Jan 2007 at 22:26

Ollie's Gadgets said:
Have you considered a Litchfield Subaru Impreza Type−25 (£39,995 New) or is this not your type of car?

Evo ran a track test of some of the fastest cars they have driven for their 1000 magazine celebration.

Evo Magazine Bedford West Circuit Lap times
McLaren F1 - 1:21.20
Ferrari Enzo - 1:21.30
Subaru Impreza Type-25 - 1:22.25
Lotus Exige S - 1:22.40
Ford GT - 1:22.75
Koenigsegg CCX - 1:22.30
Lamborghini Gallardo MY06 - 1:22.80
Porsche 911 (997) Turbo - 1:23.55
Mitsubishi Evo IX FQ340 - 1:24.55
Audi RS4 - 1:28.25
BMW M3 CS - 1:29.80

Fifth gear really raved about it YouTube

If you are after a fast A to B car then nothing is going to be faster for your budget.

Hey like Phil says don't upset the Mustang.

You missed this one out of your list:-
Roush Mustang 420RE: 1:28.50

Quicker than an M3 CS, whatever a CS is anyway and a fraction slower than an Audi RS4, I'd say not bad for a Mustang.

[TW]Fox said:
People make their own choices and have their own reasons for doing so. Personally, I'm not moving out until I am ready to make a life with someone I wish to spend the rest of my life with, who may or may not be my current partner but only time will tell. Perhaps Gibbo is the same. If he's got the disposable income and he enjoys splashing it provided he's not digging himself into big debt, then why not?

Thats my thinking Fox too, I will move out, get my own place when I want to or something in my life changes that makes me want too.

At the moment I shall use some of my money on having fun with cars without digging myself into any debt.

Jez · 25 Jan 2007 at 22:30

My issue would be that i would argue that i actually do get more enjoyment out of having a huge bank balance, than i would if i bought a 30 grand car. There is something satisfying about looking at it, knowing i have it sitting there, and knowing that if i wanted to i could buy virtually anything i want. My old man is the same, he earns a lot of money, yet wont spend any of it and just loves to pour it all back into investments to make even more of it.

Gibbo obviously likes cars more than money, which is completely up to him. And why i'd encourage the 996 purchase.