Porsche Killer

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6k - G1 = £150
12k - G2 = £327
18k - G1 = £495

OH MY GOD HOW CAN YOU AFFORD THOSE

If it was that cheap over here, I'd of had one already. 18k from Nissan without brake service is the best part of $3k and that's if you don't pay their retail price for it. If you add brakes in you're looking at almost $10k for the 18k service.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Im serious, why does the car being new have any baring on the skill required by the mechanic, oh noes! the car is worth 70 thousands, it cannot possibly be worked on by a mere mortal we must take it to the gods at the dealership who will lavish us with the same quality of work for an extortionate fee

FS: Nissan GT-R. One owner from new. Then me who did it all myself.

= -20k value.

 

[ubersonic]

Yes, the R33 and R35 are like TEH SAMEZ

I know their not the same model but their still the same car, that makes no sense does it? lol. Ill try and explain, the new GT-R has dropped the skyline name but it still retains its place in the market and in Nissans lineup, just like when Toyota dropped the Celica Supra name and decided to make the '86 Supra its own car and not a submodel, it was still their flagship sports car.

The is no reason why a 2011 GT-R requires more technical knowhow to change the damn oil than a 1998 model does. Why people are terrified of the prospect I have no idea, ive flushed the ATF in a tiptronic box and im disabled and stupid

 

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If it was that cheap over here, I'd of had one already. 18k from Nissan without brake service is the best part of $3k and that's if you don't pay their retail price for it. If you add brakes in you're looking at almost $10k for the 18k service.

Wow, now that is mental. Only way to do brakes on the GTR would be to upgrade them to something other than the ££££ OEM.

Still quite an expense.

 

[Sp00n]

Ahh didn't realise you were from the states, sucks for you man. the info I posted is correct for the UK though.

Im serious, why does the car being new have any baring on the skill required by the mechanic, oh noes! the car is worth 70 thousands, it cannot possibly be worked on by a mere mortal we must take it to the gods at the dealership who will lavish us with the same quality of work for an extortionate fee

Wasn't the argument Garage Service Vs. DIY? Not stealer vs specialist.

You appear to have changed your argument:

if it really is 3k to have the transmission flushed id just do it myself lol.

 

[ubersonic]

Wasn't the argument Garage Service Vs. DIY? Not stealer vs specialist.

You appear to have changed your argument:

If it was 3k to get it done at a stealer and due to that the specialist also wanted a stupid amount I would do it myself.

Im the type of person who will be buying a 10 year old GT-R and if one seller told me "ive paid through the nose for the oil change to be done by a bloke in a Nissan cap and have all the receipts to prove it" another told me "I had the oil changes done by my local garage and have all the receipts to prove it" and a third told me "I did all the oil changes myself and have all the receipts for the oil to prove it was quality stuff" then in all honesty I would treat all three statements with equal value.

 

[Fett]

From a value for money point of view, yes the Nissan is a bargain, however I'd like to think some of that money is going towards making a statement, the Porsche is more low key blends in with the crowd, the GTR attracts the wrong sort of attention from the wrong age group.

Real world wise something like a C4 would offer everything i would ever need from a performance standpoint, the GTR in my eyes is overkill.

Just to clear something up, i'm not doubting the Nissans ability, never have never will, from a technical and outright pace point of view i'd rate it above Porsche, at the end of the day you have the Nissan crew then the Porsche camp, both have seeming irrational loyalties to one brand.

If I am coming across irrational, I apologise. I don't have any real brand loyalty to Nissan, and what I'll be driving in a few months time will make that clear. But there is an incredible amount of rubbish written on the internet about the GT-R and it's just wrong. Perhaps I'm suffereing from the dreaded PJS, I don't think so though.

Your initial statement of having any Porsche over a GT-R makes more sense now, if the C4 offers everything you need.

Last point on the image, I'd agree that Porsche wins hands down if you have a certain message you want to get across. But the GT-R, like the Porsche appeals to all ages in my experience.

Ok I misread something you put, was only posting on my phone, apologies.

However, my point still stands, the running costs are extortionate, particularly over here. It costs almost twice what my 911 costs to run a year and doesn't offer anything more performance wise than a 911 Turbo which I can buy for the same money (albeit two years old now).

There is no justification for the 6k mile/6 month service intervals, it shows NO confidence in their product and the 18k gearbox flush is a joke. Porsche PDK boxes don't need maintenance until 120k miles yet they put the same or even more power down than the GTR.

You have to laugh at the brake costs, $8k!!!!! Seriously?! They're Brembo brakes, the same ones I can buy FROM Brembo for half that price, yet Nissan want $8k. You have to see the idiocy in this when they're marketing against cars that are just as fast (911 TT) yet don't cost anywhere near this to run.

In the USA if you service outside of your dealer, kiss your warranty goodbye.

This is knowledge I've gained based on wanting to buy one myself and that of my friends who own several of them, it's not hearsay and I do not just repeat the useless information that people spout on the internet.

This is all based on American prices and the HPCs pricing, not the same in the UK. If you are worried about brake costs, well, buy them at your half price deal and everything is tickity boo.

It's a high performance car with high costs, don't be fooled buy the purchase price. I don't see the idiocy of offering a £70k car that can match a £115k car, but with high servicing and part costs personally.

What are the "much faster cars" that dont require high maintenance?

I've not driven the GT-R but..

I feel it would be a distraction having all those dials blinking away. If Mr Playstation had his way I think there'd be a score system where you get so many points for hitting 1g in the corners

With the 997.2 Turbo, most of the trickery is hidden away so you can focus on driving the thing. Not that it would be hard with automatic this and assisted that. Very much like the GT-R I admit.

You can turn them off.

 

[peterattheboro]

If it was 3k to get it done at a stealer and due to that the specialist also wanted a stupid amount I would do it myself.

Im the type of person who will be buying a 10 year old GT-R and if one seller told me "ive paid through the nose for the oil change to be done by a bloke in a Nissan cap and have all the receipts to prove it" another told me "I had the oil changes done by my local garage and have all the receipts to prove it" and a third told me "I did all the oil changes myself and have all the receipts for the oil to prove it was quality stuff" then in all honesty I would treat all three statements with equal value.

Who will people trust when buying a car from you? You or a dealer/specialist? For all they know, you could have done something wrong which will result in a hefty bill a few months down the line.

 

[hurfdurf]

I feel it would be a distraction having all those dials blinking away. If Mr Playstation had his way I think there'd be a score system where you get so many points for hitting 1g in the corners

This is akin to not liking the Ferrari 458 because the stitching was not up to par with your Conran leather office chair and then claiming it was made of cheap material and you would much rather have the Gallardo because Audi know how to do interiors right.

You can turn them off.

Why even respond to such idiocy?

 

[Sp00n]

If it was 3k to get it done at a stealer and due to that the specialist also wanted a stupid amount I would do it myself.

Im the type of person who will be buying a 10 year old GT-R and if one seller told me "ive paid through the nose for the oil change to be done by a bloke in a Nissan cap and have all the receipts to prove it" another told me "I had the oil changes done by my local garage and have all the receipts to prove it" and a third told me "I did all the oil changes myself and have all the receipts for the oil to prove it was quality stuff" then in all honesty I would treat all three statements with equal value.

I'm sure you would, the general public don't.

 

[[TW]Fox]

I dont understand why somebody with a Ford Mondeo has such a strong opinion on the GT-R. I'm not a huge fan of the GT-R but I dont really have a massive opinion on it because I've never driven one and its out of my league, so my opinion is based on all I know about it - how it looks and the paper figures.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Im the type of person who will be buying a 10 year old GT-R and if one seller told me "ive paid through the nose for the oil change to be done by a bloke in a Nissan cap and have all the receipts to prove it" another told me "I had the oil changes done by my local garage and have all the receipts to prove it" and a third told me "I did all the oil changes myself and have all the receipts for the oil to prove it was quality stuff" then in all honesty I would treat all three statements with equal value.

I'm sure you would.

But as you are not in the market for a £50,000 high performance car, your opinion is worth nothing in this instance.

It's not a £3000 diesel runabout.

 

[Firestar_3x]

If I am coming across irrational, I apologise. I don't have any real brand loyalty to Nissan, and what I'll be driving in a few months time will make that clear. But there is an incredible amount of rubbish written on the internet about the GT-R and it's just wrong. Perhaps I'm suffereing from the dreaded PJS, I don't think so though.

Your initial statement of having any Porsche over a GT-R makes more sense now, if the C4 offers everything you need.

Last point on the image, I'd agree that Porsche wins hands down if you have a certain message you want to get across. But the GT-R, like the Porsche appeals to all ages in my experience.

Not in the slightest, i look forward to the thread

 

[hurfdurf]

I dont understand why somebody with a Ford Mondeo has such a strong opinion on the GT-R. I'm not a huge fan of the GT-R but I dont really have a massive opinion on it because I've never driven one and its out of my league, so my opinion is based on all I know about it - how it looks and the paper figures.

Uneducated, unaccountable, irrational, hyperbolic, stupid, unexperienced opinions on a public forum populated mainly by teenagers who have probably never even sat inside the car being discussed let alone driven one, well I never!

 

[DM]

What car you getting in a couple of months Fett? I hate suspense

 

[DAIR]

If it was 3k to get it done at a stealer and due to that the specialist also wanted a stupid amount I would do it myself.

Im the type of person who will be buying a 10 year old GT-R and if one seller told me "ive paid through the nose for the oil change to be done by a bloke in a Nissan cap and have all the receipts to prove it" another told me "I had the oil changes done by my local garage and have all the receipts to prove it" and a third told me "I did all the oil changes myself and have all the receipts for the oil to prove it was quality stuff" then in all honesty I would treat all three statements with equal value.

Only in America...

You mean to tell me you'd purchase a second hand F430 (or something similar) without a service history?

You'd actually take a man's word!

 

[flibbage0]

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/127250-accident-dont-do-what-i-did.html

A small crack in the bumper cost him £11,000 to repair.

A good read for anyone thinking of buying one.

 

[ubersonic]

I'm not a huge fan of the GT-R but I dont really have a massive opinion on it because I've never driven one and its out of my league, so my opinion is based on all I know about it - how it looks and the paper figures.

as you are not in the market for a £50,000 high performance car, your opinion is worth nothing in this instance.

Why is your opinion on a car you say your not interested in buying anyway worth something but my opinion is "worth nothing" when I will be interested in buying it when it drops below 30k? (im not trying to start a fight just wondering why)

Only in America...

You mean to tell me you'd purchase a second hand F430 (or something similar) without a service history?

You'd actually take a man's word!

If he was wearing a burberry cap and a tracksuit no, if he seemed honest and had owned the car for 5 years without incident and been doing all the maintenance himself and it was totally ship shape then certainly.

 

[Fett]

I dont understand why somebody with a Ford Mondeo has such a strong opinion on the GT-R. I'm not a huge fan of the GT-R but I dont really have a massive opinion on it because I've never driven one and its out of my league, so my opinion is based on all I know about it - how it looks and the paper figures.

This, exactly this, is what is irksome. As an owner, I'm happy to tell you as objectively as possible, the strengths and weaknesses of the car.

But for the masses who have never driven one and dismissing it because it lacks character is tiresome. It falls down against the GT3 on points, it fails against italian exotica on other points etc etc, but put it into perspective with the company it is keeping.

 

[Sp00n]

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/127250-accident-dont-do-what-i-did.html

A small crack in the bumper cost him £11,000 to repair.

A good read for anyone thinking of buying one.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=18537121&postcount=60