Porsche Owners Thread - If you own one or just like or hate them! :)

Surely it's one or the other. If you know for sure that you're not losing out to depreciation then I expect you'd be a little less vague!

Well I'm a small amount up on some, small amount down on others over the last few years and five 911's I think I am more or less even. I don't remember all the number anymore but I made quite a bit on the first 2, I think even on the 3rd one, lost a little on the 4th one and still driving the 5th one which I should make a couple of thousand when I sell it (but who knows). So after you factor in running costs (discs, pads) and warranty I should be about even maybe a tiny up.

The first Panamera lost something like £2500 over 20 000 miles and one year, the 2nd one will take a massive hit but it was bought new and my ex plans to keep it for 5+ years.

The GT4 should come out with all my money back or a some profit when I sell it on which will probably be in 6 to 12 months.
 
The first Panamera lost something like £2500 over 20 000 miles and one year, the 2nd one will take a massive hit but it was bought new and my ex plans to keep it for 5+ years.

The GT4 should come out with all my money back or a some profit when I sell it on which will probably be in 6 to 12 months.

How many miles in such a short time frame? WOW :eek:

I'd expect with the GT4 you should easily be able to make a huge profit from looking at what they are selling for now, which is just completely nuts!

Speaking about depreciation, I expect to loose quiet a chunk on mine but its spec'ed to my requirements and its going to be a long term car until I can trade up to a 991 GT3 or unless I get a good deal on a 991.2 GTS. I expect the car to be worth around 50% of what I paid for the car in about 4/5 years. However, I always see cars as a loss as I tend to by most of them new as I can never seem to find a second hand which meets my requirements.
 
Yes, its a lot of mile the hybrid is upto around 18000 miles and its only 9 months old now.

I agree with the GT4 comment, I think they will only go up come april. If you remember the GT3 was going at £30k over list and went all the way upto £60k and now back down to £30k.

Somehow I am not that excited about picking it up, probably because I don't want to make the trip up to sheffield but I will do it this week I think.
 
Right I'm a little confused, as I went to order a new set of Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires today and other than being told they are not N-rated. I also was told it will invalid my insurance as these are not OE tyres and I will to inform my insurance before using them.

How can a consumable item like a tyre invalidate your insurance / warranty? I am guessing this is all BS to ensure I spend the extra to buy a N-rated tyre. I will speak to my insurance tomorrow and confirm this statement.

So that leaves my tyre choices to the Pirelli P-Zero or Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 as these are the only N-rated tyres for my car. However, the only reason I have been looking at tyres already is I am really not happy with the P-Zero's! :mad:
 
Did you go to an OPC for this 'advice'?

No, I was told this from CamSkill over the phone today. I personally thought it was BS but I'd just thought id check to before buying all new tyres. :p

I'm also getting my local OPC to confirm in writing about the warranty side of things as well.
 
The warranty will be fine, if they say no, find a better OPC. If you can run N type tyres it makes sense, but I wouldn't stress too much about it. The way good OPC's work is they will not warranty non Porsche parts, which seems fair. So if you get them to fit non Porsche discs and they crack and warp don't expect them to replace them at their cost like they would with a Porsche part. Same for most bits, suspension, batteries etc etc
 
You can't renew the warranty with non N rated tyres but as that's not a issue for you it's fine. I hate the P zeros also.

Pzero on the Mustang, no better than on the 911, I think they stand for zero grip in cold/wet, aweful tyre compared to other Summer tyres such as MPSS, F1AS2, V105, RS5 in colder wet conditions.

Oh well they will keep me on my toes and my speed down in the colder/wet conditions for sure.
 
Oh well they will keep me on my toes and my speed down in the colder/wet conditions for sure.

That's the big problem with them though, its the unpredictable nature of them in wet conditions. Granted, I don't drive mine in the wet a lot or at all if I have the choice but the odd occasion when I have been caught in the rain its been a handful.

I'll replace them with MPSS as soon as the new stock comes through.
 
[RXP]Andy;29063538 said:
That's the big problem with them though, its the unpredictable nature of them in wet conditions. Granted, I don't drive mine in the wet a lot or at all if I have the choice but the odd occasion when I have been caught in the rain its been a handful.

I'll replace them with MPSS as soon as the new stock comes through.

Yes agreed, the Mustang scared me yesterday, motorway slip road, wet and cold but I though hey I will put it in 4th and floor it, will be fine, I was wrong, had to correct a rather big sideways moment. The Pzero is very unpredictable and snatchy in the wet, MPSS, F1AS2, V105 are far better for progression and grip in the wet. Rainsport 3 is absolutely incredible in the wet, but is behind all the others in the dry.

You'd just expect better from Pirelli to be honest, but oh well. In comparison I drove the M3 to the restaurent last night as I need to drive fast and it was even colder but the M3 glued to ground in comparison and when it broke lose far more progressive, it has V105's on but tyres make a vast difference. If the M3 was still running cups or RSR's then it was also pretty snappy in wet and low grip.

Just wish Ford had put Super Sports on the regular GT's and not just the Shelby's. :(
 
Saw this on another forum:

http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/14217700.Porsche_loving_pensioner_duped_out_of/

A PORSCHE-loving pensioner who was duped out of his £170,000 dream car by a lying motor dealership has triumphed in a landmark fight for damages.

Avid Porsche enthusiast, Kevin Hughes, 67, set his heart on owning a limited edition Porsche 911 GT3 RS4 and sacrificed part of his pension to get one.

He knew that the extremely rare 2011 model would be the last four-litre Porsche 911 ever made and that there would be "a race" amongst petrolheads to get hold of one.

Mr Hughes paid a £10,000 deposit to Porsche Centre Bolton in March 2011 to ensure he would be "fist in the queue" if the dealership took delivery of one of the cars.


Fewer than 30 of them were sent to the UK and Mr Hughes was bitterly disappointed when a salesman told him that none of them had made it to Bolton.

"This was untrue", a top judge said today, as the dealership had received one of the cars but had sold it to another customer behind Mr Hughes's back.

When Mr Hughes, who runs a classic car repair shop in Chorley, discovered the truth he took the dealership's parent company, Pendragon Sabre Ltd, to court.

And today, three of the country's most senior judges ruled the company must pay for its behaviour and awarded Mr Hughes £35,000 damages.

Pendragon must also cover the huge legal costs of the case and its final bill will run well into six figures.

Mr Justice Cranston said the buyer who drove away in Mr Hughes's "dream car" had paid his deposit later and should have been behind him in the queue.

Mr Hughes had been led to believe that it would be a case of "first come first served" after rushing to the car showroom to make the £10,000 down payment.

He was told he was "in a great position" to get one of the cars and was justly furious when he was pipped to the post.

The salesman told him in an email: "I can confirm that you will get the first one from Porsche Centre Bolton if we get one, which I am very confident that we will".

Mr Hughes waited patiently for weeks after paying his deposit before the salesman emailed him with the bad news that Porsche had not allocated any of the cars to Bolton.

The judge said: "(The salesman) and Pendragon subsequently accepted that this was untrue.

"Pendragon had been allocated a 911 GT3 RS4 model, but it had been supplied to another customer".

The judge, sitting with Lord Justice Richards and Lady Justice Macur, said it was "as plain as a pikestaff" that there was a binding contract between Mr Hughes and the dealership.

It was not just "an agreement to agree" and, by paying the deposit, Mr Hughes had done far more than merely "express an interest", he added.

Having won the race to pay his deposit, Mr Hughes was assured that he would be first in line and the dealership was in breach of contract, he ruled.

Mr Hughes was awarded £35,000 damages - the difference between what he would probably have paid for one of the cars, £135,000, and its value to a collector, £170,000.

Pendragon Sabre was ordered to pay £50,000 towards Mr Hughes' legal costs straight away, although the final bill is likely to be substantially higher.

The company will also have to pay its own legal team.
 
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