Porsche Owners Thread - If you own one or just like or hate them! :)
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Hi there
911's for sub 10k:-
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=26896
Could be a huge money pit, or you could get 1-2yr happy motoring, would have to get any such car 111-point checked for sure!
911's for sub 10k:-
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=26896
Could be a huge money pit, or you could get 1-2yr happy motoring, would have to get any such car 111-point checked for sure!
Id rate the E46 M3 as better too, 10k gets you a nice M3 and its a quicker car at everything.
10k gets you an old and ropey 911 with higher running cost.
Yes, drivers can make a huge difference and if you watch videos its always generally in the braking zones which seperates a quick driver, from a scary quick driver.
Brakes, you determine that, just give brakes plenty of time to warm up and cool down, that will prevent any warping, other than that they should be fine, Porsche brakes are very good on track and handle it well.
Tyres will depend on the brand and how many big slides you do. I say destroy them and get some Michelin SuperSports, mine have done 7 trackdays and 10,000 road miles and still have 3-4mm tread left, epic tyre! The PS2's before them I did one trackday on and took nearly 3mm out of them on one trackday, so 2-3 days would be your max on PS2's in the dry, maybe 4 if your lucky. I'd say the SuperSports could easily do 8-10 trackdays, a great feat for any tyre.
Higher load rating is better, typically means stiffer sidewall, which generally means better feedback and sharper initial turn-in.
You should get it done! Enjoy the improved handling characteristics and tyres which last generally twice as long as other brands.
Hi there
When 911's first came out, N-rating was important, not many cars had such wide rears with all that weight over them.
Now its not so common, some now believe N-rating is just a form of Porsche tax, some still believe they change the spec of the tyre slightly.
Fact is Michelin tested the PSS on Porsche, designed it with Porsche in mind and Porsche themselves fitted it to GT3's and used them at the Experience centre, so they clearly work fine.
On my 911 I've had Pirelli Pzero Rosso (Terrible), Michelin PS2 (very good, average in wet) and now the Michelin SuperSport which is better than the PS2 at everything, dry, wet, wear, road noise, comfort, it is just excellent! Next I am trying Pirelli Corsa System which is a track focused tyre and will then no doubt be back on SuperSports again.
I just had my geo re-checked and slightly adjusted on the 911:-
Running the above, the drive and grip is sublime, no front-end lightness or lack of confidence, just grip and great confidence.
Yep!
I know for fast road use and some track work to keep front camber sub -2.7 and ideally under -2.3, so -2.0 is a happy front setting for me. Might be a tad too little for track work with the stickier tyres, shall just have to keep an eye on the outer edges to check I am not scrubbing them too much.
I know Mike who runs a 996 which is now more or less a permament track car runs upto -4.0 at track on michelin cups.
On the rear most say around -1.80 is fine and giving more makes little difference unless your running extreme front camber, but the front should always be more than the rear ideally.
Rear should always toe in, stability under braking.
Front toe neutral to keep the front feeling positive as toe out only gives you more initial turn-in but not more actual grip on the 911.
I do remember driving yours and thinking WTF, this car just wants to throw itself in a hedge.
How'd I use him, he operate a driving school or frequent track days?
OK thanks m8
Sounds good idea, might sort something out on next official Porsche trackday, as he could definetely teach me a lot.
Yeah one is normally organised every July and as with all track days you can get tuition for a small fee. Also doing a track day February 3rd and tuition is available.
I've increased my front negative camber too -2.00 now, but kept rear at -1.75 and using same toe settings as you, very happy.
For me yes, soft for the road, hard for the track.
Sports chrono is a must really too if you like to drive hard, as it dials out the PSM quite a bit letting you have fun.
...and it lowers the car by an inch or two which makes it look much better.
Non-PASM cars are fine, but are neither perfect for road nor track. Not that PASM doesn't have it foibles though.
PASM is 10mm lower.
Sports suspension and LSD is 20mm lower and some say it's too much, as in too low especially with aerokit.
They all make a right racket, hell if you stick your head in the engine bay on a 911 it sounds like a load of bricks in a tumble dryer, even more so in a GT3. They sound broken at idle.
But a GT3 being booted makes an epic noise/racket. An exhaust just amplifies the racket more so!
Mine is exactly the same point, 5500rpm and if you look at dyno plots from it you can see a dip in power which is done on purpose by Porsche due to some emmisions rule and then the car starts to make real power too. Feel like a cam change but is not I believe, but the sound changes and the car pulls even harder.
If you installing PSE properly it must be done by a specialist or an OPC. As the vacuum lines need to be wired in along with Sport switch retrofitting and the pins on the DME being sorted.
Essentially it means most of the rear interior comes out the car and when buying a PSE, its not just the mufflers your buying, you need to ensure you have the whole PSE fitting kit which is approx £600ish too.
Just make sure you do it right, my PSE was a nightmare with the first bunch of cowboys who tried fitting it and ruined the car, thankfully a full refund was issued and I was allowed to keep the parts and that refund covered the cost of buying new parts and fitting.