Porsche Owners Thread - If you own one or just like or hate them! :)

Looks epic! Far better than the test mules with tiny wings, though I still think 997.2 is the best looker. :)

Ring time needs be sub 7:30 as the C2S s like 7:37 is it not? You'd hope an extra 60BHP, less weight, more track focused and stickier tyres would give a bigger improvement like circa 7:20

Is this the 3800cc in current cars just fettled with even more or a brand new engine?
 
I know sod all about hondas but i thought the S2000 had a 9k redline ?

It does, might even be 9200rpm, but unfortunately I think the S2000 is now a car no longer made. :(

Also the fact this is a flat 6 with such huge power and torque, to have that kind of redline is simply epic.

Also no doubt that a remap will release that to around 9400rpm, as current GT3's when mapped rev to approx 8500rpm.

The noise will be completely intoxicating, as my car at 7000rpm sounds immense, unfortunately it all ends at 7400rpm. So an extra 1500rpm with an even better sounding engine, will be just WANT ONE! :D
 
What's the big deal with the over revving on these cars then? Are the owners incapable of down-shifting properly? Never heard of such a big to-do with any other car :confused:


Another get out clause for Porsche on warranty.

It also gives a new buyer peace of mind when buying to request a DME report, ranges 1-3 are fine, anything 4 or above need some serious thought before buying. So time to check operating hours and if it happens a long time ago in the cars life its generally safe to assume no damage was done.

My car when I purchased it had like 3000-4000 ignitions in range 1 and about 1500 in range 2, with like 4-10 in range 3.

It now has twice as many in range 1, a few more in range 2 and 3, still nothing in 4 or above.

My range 1 has increased lots simply because I use all the revs the car has to offer when enjoying it, changing up at the limiter, never missed a downshift though. :)
 
That's interesting... Where is the red line, and where is the limiter on yours then? I thought the redline was visual guidance, and the limiter kicked in a little later, but still before the threshold for a range 1 "alarms"? Ie, I thought the only way to produce even a range 1 alarm was to buzz the engine on downshift?

Correct data including rev ranges when evaluating overspeed events on a 05-08 Carrera.



"
If overspeed entries are found and if the difference between the current hourmeter and the status when the last overspeed event was recorded is less than 50 operating hours, there is a high probability that the damage was caused by overspeed event(s).
The value “50 operating hours” should be seen as a guide. The possibility of engine damage occurring much later due to previous overspeed event(s) cannot be ruled out.


Rev ranges:

Rev range 1: 7,200 -1 ... to 7,500 -1
⇒ Maximum permitted engine speed exceeded; engine damage possible.
Rev range 2: 7,500 -1 ... to 7,700 -1
⇒ Maximum permitted engine speed exceeded; engine damage possible.
Rev range 3: 7,700 -1 ... to 7,900 -1
⇒ Maximum permitted engine speed exceeded; engine damage possible.
Rev range 4: 7,900 -1 ... to 8,400 -1
⇒ Maximum permitted engine speed clearly exceeded; engine damage probable.
Rev range 5: 8,400 -1 ... to 9,500 -1
⇒ Maximum permitted engine speed very clearly exceeded; engine damage very probable.
Rev range 6: over 9,500 -1
⇒ Engine damage has generally occurred."



Range 1 is 7200rpm onwards, limiter kicks in around 7400rpm, so easy to register more range 1 with spirited driving. Range 2 needs you to hit the limiter hard, i.e. bounce off it to creep into 7500rpm territory, thats why range 2 does not increase as quick.

Range 3 will be a miss shift, a very slight engine buzz.

All cars for sale have range 1 and 2 typically, I'd be very worried and suspicious if they did not, range 3 if it happened a while ago not an issue, just range 4 and above to look out for. Porsche will only put warranties on a car that have nothing in 4 and above, though range 4 is at discretion of Porsche, range 5/6 however is impossible more or less to get a warranty on, thats if the car is still alive.
 
Ah ok, so by implication, does that mean that Porsche will put a warranty on (or honour an existing warranty) on a car that has over-rev alarms in range 1, 2 and even 3?

Yes because they won't damage the engine and these engines were designed to be driven, not to be garage queens or stuck in traffic jams.

Being serious now I'd not buy a car that had no ignitions in range 1 or 2, because it would mean the DME had either being tampered with or the engine had never being pushed.

But of course it does not make up for the fact the earlier Porsche engines had design faults, IMS, bore scoring due to lack of cooling etc. etc.

It is why as soon as I got mine, 3rd radiator was installed to keep it cool and I change the oil every 5000-6000 miles. In a few weeks I am going to get the bores checked, when I purchased the car the bores with un-marked, I am hoping 20k miles later they are still spotless. :)
 
Ooooh, just realised I forgot to ask you re your shifter... I went and had a long chat with the parts guy at OPC Leicester while my new bits were being fitted... I sat in a 997.1 GT3 (think I need to take a class on how to get in/out of buckets :o), and the gear change felt "shorter" and more mechanical than mine which seemed to tally with what you said re metal bushings. The guy looked up the VIN numbers of both that GT3 & my car, and the shifter has an identical part number? Very odd... I don't suppose you have a part number for yours that I can compare do you?

No no, remember I said GT3 997.2 shifter.

997.1 GT3 still uses plastic bushes, they upgraded to metal bushings in 2010 997.2 GT3, feels even better. So ask for the shifter for a 2010 gen2 GT3, thats a different part number, same price. :)
 
You don't have to redline the engine to push it.

Like it or not the market is pretty sensitive to rev ranges, at least on all but the proper hot Porsches (GT3s etc). Same seems to go for mileage - would-be Porsche owners seem to expect the cars to have done Ferrari mileage.

My car didn't have any ignitions in RR2 or above, and I drove it enthusiastically. Different strokes for different folks?

To be honest, I intend on keeping it for another year or two at which point it will probably fetch 20kish privately.

Though my rev ranges are nothing out of the ordinary from others posted up on PH, Rennlist etc.

The fact Porsche put warranties on them, shows they are not concerned, also most buying Porsches don't even know about the DME report, even some garages are a bit unsure until you speak to the right person.

When I purchased my car I asked for the report, garage selling it had no idea, ask Porsche and got through to someone who knew what it was and got the report. Nothing in 4 or above, so was happy as the advice I was given, range 1 and 2 is fine, no worries, 3 is slight concern if recent and if 4 or above potentially walk away, 5/6 definetely walk away!

I purchased on spec/condition, DME was a check to ensure nothing in 4 or above and for me there was not so happy. Was more interested in the 111 point check to be honest and what the car needed or would soon need to obtain a warranty. :)

Touch wood its being a superb car and one I absolutely love driving, it shall no doubt be sold as a part-ex at which point DME report is completely irrelevent anyway, unless there is something in 4 and above.
 
Ahhhh, I'd missed the .2 bit... Part# 99742401091? Interesting, I'll look out for a normal SSK equipped car & a 997.2 GT3 and go and pester him again before I make my mind up...

Doesn't explain why the gear change on the 997.1 GT3 felt different to mine despite an identical part number though?

The cables, the GT3's don't have a short shifter, they have different cables which shortern the throw or something like that.

So when you put the GT3 shifter in a Carrera the throw remains un-changed, hence why the Carrera and gen1 GT3 use the same part number. The gen2 GT3 got the upgraded shifter with metal bushing, but again throw was un-changed.

So in the GT3 the shorter throw is from the different cables, you can install porsche cup cables in a Carrera, but it adds a lot of noise supposedly. I love mine, if your local or coming to the rolling road, you can have a feel. :)
 
I was at OultonPark last weekend taking pictures. The GT3 RS on track sounded awesome.

So much awesome, I've just booked the day off work so I can be at the Oulton Park RS Day on the 8th March taking pictures. :D

Come over and say hello, yellow C2S, easy to spot. :D
 
Hi

I need some advice.

So my new car went in for a 111 point check to renew the warranty. My car has new N1 tyres on the back but the fronts are N0 so they say I need new tyres. Is there any way to get around this? They are also telling me I need to fit bridgestone are they any good?

Second problem is they tell me the front discs are low, they want 1k for a new set of discs and pads. Any idea if I can find a way or doing this cheaper?


I believe for tyres you have to have Nspec of same version all round. Bridgestones are ok but in nspec the Michelin PS2's are the most sportiest tyres.

Brakes and pads have to be Porsche so you could buy the parts and fit yourself, same with tyres. Porsche can give upto 20% discount if you ask them nicely. ;)

Welcome to Porsche ownership, I've probably spent 10-15k on mine in warranties, parts, brakes, tyres etc. Etc.
 
Yah, I am going to get a £5k bill at the end of this and I have only had the car a few weeks.

If I get a Indi to fit Textar/Pagid discs and pads will porsche ever know?

If it was already under warranty, they'd not care what brakes were fitted as the warranty does not cover them, they are consumables.

However to get a warranty they are ultra strict and as such make you fit all o.e. parts, why do you think Porsche is so profitable. ;)

Porsche use pagid pads, so get those, they might go un-noticed or should do, make sure the disc are Porsche o.e. though and then just fit yourself or get an indy to do so.

Then go back for a re-check and should be OK. :)
 
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