Possible New Newcastle Boss!

Heard a rumour that Allardyce was more or less signed up for the job after Bobby but Shearer gave Souness the nod and Sam took a walk.
No idea as to how true that is but I can't see any world class managers having any interest in the post if they're having to work with Shearer's permission.
 
I think Newcastle still have enough quality in their first team to beat most of the mid-table teams and get up in and around the top six. Man-for-man their first eleven is still pretty good, it's just that they seem to have barely any depth to their squad. So yeah, a few seasons of building is definitely needed, but I don't think it's beyond them to be fairly high up the table for the nest season, and hell, pushing for the same CL spot that Blackburn/Bolton/Wigan were until a few weeks ago.

Not sure Roeder is the man to help them though. As said, a Wenger and his ability to buy decent youngsters on the cheap would be perfect for them, but of course, he's busy ;). It's a shame the Hitzfeld rumours/campaign never came to anything.
 
I am really happy with what glen has done with us since february and hats off to him...

but...

as many toon fans will agree.. for the permanent boss glen isnt the answer we were looking for.

In the first couple of weeks it was looking great as a few really good managers were thrown into the mix, but obviously things havent worked out behind the scenes.

Personally i've always wanted to see Martin O'Niel as the manager, and i really am hoping he will come to us, provided he doesnt get the england job.
 
Carlos_S said:
Fans didn't want Gullit out? I'm pretty sure most fans wanted Gullit sacked, he was terrible as a manager.
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Nope, he was pretty popular right up until the sunderland game after which he resigned, there were lots of Gullit wigs getting drenched in the rain that night.
 
GBB said:
Nope, he was pretty popular right up until the sunderland game after which he resigned, there were lots of Gullit wigs getting drenched in the rain that night.
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Yep , we were singing his name the week before as well , getting soaked at the dell while 3-0 down iirc.

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InsomniaCalls said:
Heard a rumour that Allardyce was more or less signed up for the job after Bobby but Shearer gave Souness the nod and Sam took a walk.
No idea as to how true that is but I can't see any world class managers having any interest in the post if they're having to work with Shearer's permission.
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Not quite.
ALEDGEDLY - Allardyce came in for an interview and sitting on the panel along with the chairman was a director , the PR guy and Alan Shearer.
Big Sam turned the job down because he didnt want to manage a player with that much power.
 
Spud21 said:
Sorry about that, god knows why i put north west, sadly i don't :)

I agree about souness any manager actually sacked by liverpool has to be a rubbish manager, as they generally don't sack people unless they have just been done by a division 1 side at anfield in a horific purple and lime green kit, with a stunning goal from mr Tinnion :D

I never got the souness appointment, i can understand why they may have wanted a manager of his ilk, as all to often for me (not being a NUFC fan) it seemed as if large numbers of your players just coulnd't be bothered a lot of the time, bu to appoint one as tactically innept as souness was stupid, someone like big sam would have worked wonders with NUFC after Robson, a man who is tactically clever but also has little time for wasters, which you do seem to accrue at a somewhat alarming rate.

I agree that you do deserve something for the amount of money you have to shell out, but that isn't challenging the top 4 at the moment, for me you need to take 1 step backwards to take 2 forward, get rid of a large number of your overpaid prima donnas, and replace them with good young grafters with some ability, suplement that with some real quality (not emre) and build a side that is only ever going to get better like spurs and Arsenal are doing.

I understand that this may well be a problem with freddie in chage, but i don't think you can expect a top class manager to come in yet as a your team is simply not god enough for a top class manager, you have some good individuals but they just don't work hugely well as a unit, you need someone who will bring the team forward to a position where a top manager may think about joining, from what he is doing at the moment i don't think roeder would be a bad appointment in the short to mid term, oh and you need a striker as well, as Ameobi is ok but he is nowhere near good enough IMO to lead the line of a club with top 8 ambitions.

Your chairman does not help, as he does seem to be up there with deadly doug for woefully innept chairman. I don't think you will get it but i think from the Outside NUFC need a complete rebuild from top to bottom starting with that man.
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Id agree with that.
See atpbx's post.
 
Vandle said:
Not quite.
ALEDGEDLY - Allardyce came in for an interview and sitting on the panel along with the chairman was a director , the PR guy and Alan Shearer.
Big Sam turned the job down because he didnt want to manage a player with that much power.
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It wouldnt suprise me if Big Al's having a big say in Roeders appointment especially as he's currently working alongside him.

If thats Allardyces attitude then he'll never get a look in for the England job with Beckham in the team!

Not that I disagree with his opinion I dont think players should be involved outside the on field activities thats the problem with the current England team they've all got to much to say for themselves in matters which dont concern them. I want the best man for the job not the best man who the players think should have the job (i.e the one who they enjoy the comfort zone with the most)
 
Vandle said:
Not quite.
ALEDGEDLY - Allardyce came in for an interview and sitting on the panel along with the chairman was a director , the PR guy and Alan Shearer.
Big Sam turned the job down because he didnt want to manage a player with that much power.
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Thats what I have heard from several Newcastle fans aswell.
 
Psycho Ned said:
If thats Allardyces attitude then he'll never get a look in for the England job with Beckham in the team!
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Beckham is an entirely different person to Shearer, Shearer has club power, Beckham doesn't. Whilst Beckham is a powerful media tool and Captain, he has no sway over anything else unless allowed to (as it would appear under Sven). Allardyce is a bigger man than Sven, as he has proven by managing big name players at Bolton.
 
Newcastle should get George Graham in, then they might finally have a defence worthy of a european team :). Tongue in cheek but I dread to think what would happen to Newcastle if they didn't have Given pulling them out of the fire every week, I mean seriously, any team which can spend £13m on a centreback pairing and end up with the 'quality' of Bramble and Boumsong needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

I've always felt that during this decade, Newcastle have had a midfield and forwardline capable of cementing a top6 place, but their defence tends to let them down - they always seem to be relying on 'average' premiership players at filling out their back 4 rather than genuine class. The only defender they had that the big clubs craved was Woodgate and now he's gone.
 
Would totally agree with that we've had some good strikers and midfielders over the years but no matter who we buy at the back they always turn out to be **** :( Woodgate was the best defender we've had but it was a cracking piece of business selling him whilst crocked for 13million shame they then wasted it buying Boumsong :(

Why Given dont leave i'll never know he's been too good for us for years now and is good enough to be first choice at almost every premier league club yet persists in being our last line of defence behind some right donkeys!
 
Well we've looked pretty good at the back recently, all over the pitch actually, with his past record I think Roeder would be a massive risk and it would be a pretty unambitious appointment, but he is clearly doing something right at the moment.
 
Whilst it is hard to argue with what Roeder has done lately I would be disapointed if he was given the job on a full time basis.

Although I can see the problem the club has at the moment trying to find a suitable candidate I feel appointing Roeder shows a little lack of ambition and had hoped they could pull a more illustrious coach to fill the position but lets be honest who else is there out there and attainable?
 
Looks like Freddys "plans" may not come true.

From The Guardian website, Tuesday:

"...A Premier League said that the rules were clear. "As things stand, Glenn Roeder would not be able to take charge of Newcastle United without his Pro Licence," he said.

Other reports have suggested that Roeder would be able to complete his Pro Licence in the summer, but the Football Association says that Roeder will need to complete the full one-year course again.

An FA spokesman said: "The Pro Licence is an in-depth one-year course, not just a piece of paper. The next intake begins in June 2006, and won't finish until July 2007.

"The course involves residential tuition in June and January, plus 240 hours of distance learning, club visits and conference calls. It's not something that can be completed over the summer."
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From The Times, Wednesday:
"...the Premier League’s board is unlikely to compromise its stance on Roeder. “Glenn Roeder will not be Newcastle United manager at the start of next season as the situation currently stands,” a league spokesman said last night.

John Barnwell, the LMA’s chief executive, is equally forthright in his opposition to such an appointment. “Unfortunately it would not be possible because he [Roeder] doesn’t have a Pro licence,” he said. “That’s not our stance. It’s Uefa’s stance.”

Barnwell’s opposition was echoed by Sam Allardyce, the Bolton Wanderers manager. Now seemingly reduced to third choice for the England job, behind Luiz Felipe Scolari and Steve McClaren, Allardyce might have reason to think that he would be an attractive alternative for Newcastle.

“If Glenn wants to be the manager of Newcastle, he should go through that process, Allardyce said. “Otherwise, what’s the point in having the rules?”
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Is there anyone else at the club aside from Shearer whos doing/done the badges? Cos I expect they could fiddle the system and put some other bloke as manager whilst Roader does the course and still runs the team.
 
Psycho Ned said:
Is there anyone else at the club aside from Shearer whos doing/done the badges? Cos I expect they could fiddle the system and put some other bloke as manager whilst Roader does the course and still runs the team.
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Tommy Craig could be the manager and Roeder as director of football until he has passed his pro licence.
 
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