Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

[Boomstick777]

AMD Radeon R9 390X and R9 390 GPUz data leaked

Yesterday Brazilian website leaked full list of MSI Radeon 300 graphics cards along with pictures and, more importantly datasheets. One ->datasheet<- in particular was very interesting. If this datasheet was correct then Radeon R9 390 would be in fact using full Hawaii silicon. Well unfortunately, that may not be true.

http://videocardz.com/56373/amd-radeon-r9-390x-and-r9-390-gpuz-data-leaked

 

[Boomstick777]

290X 390X

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[Boomstick777]

XFX DD 290X VS 390X PCB comparison. It's like spot the difference but less fun..

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[Boomstick777]

^^ We all knew these were re-brands, why these two acting like they discovered something that no one else knew

I wander who's job it is to do the bios flash and who prints over the box

 

[Boomstick777]

So we're not getting anything Fury related until the 24th? Daymmmm

Yeah AMD reveal their cards at E3, then press will get sample and reviews will go live sometime after, with cards being able to be ordered from the 24th?

With the rebranding, it's no different from the 7970 > 280X or GTX 680 > GTX 770, other than AMD have changed their naming scheme. Anyone with half a brain realizes that the 390X isn't the flagship.

290X
290
280X

Fiji Fury
Fiji Pro
390X


Really not a big deal. Just need to wait for the whole stack to launch and pricing.

 

[Boomstick777]

The Sapphire 390X Tri X actually looks like a nice card, yeah it's a rebrand but it comes with a decent cooler, more display ports. 8GB frame buffer for $389 / £250. Once the initial price hike dies down, that's a pretty good value card to be fair.

390 Nitro looks decent as well.

I think once the full product stack is revealed and more people realize that these are the new mid - high range then re branding won't be an issue. This happened with 680 > 770 and 7970 > 280X. Only difference here is the naming scheme which has made it confusing for some.

 

[Boomstick777]

Thought the 390x cards were set to be about 350 or so?

A lot of them coming in around $389 which is £250 in the UK. It will depend how much 'UK' pricing gets added on at launch, but after the initial hike dies down these should be around £250+ depending on the model.

 

[Boomstick777]

All fine and dandy if your only intention is for gaming, If this is a pure rebrand then looking at it from another angle. Hawaii Gcn 1.1 is outdated by maxwell gm204 and gm206 with respect to not supporting HDMI 2, it doesn't support 144hz I believe (Gregster experienced this).
The uvd engine is only 4.2 which doesn't support full 4K H.264 video decoding.
Tonga has uvd 5 and Carrizo even has uvd 6. Of course if Amd have updated these blocks then at least it's a positive development.
Then there's the power consumption. Ok 8gb is nice as standard but a single 290/x (rebrand) with 8gb won't have enough grunt for the available memory.

If the r9 370 is a rebrand in both oem and retail of pitcairn v3 that'll be really embarrasing for Amd, we'll know if it is by the lack of freesync support/ true audio and the outdated uvd engine. But in comparison to Maxwell Amd could be really behind due to the rebrands in their lineup in comparison to nvidia if you look at things outside of the gaming fps. This is where the gtx960 is underrated in my opinion as it has superb h.264/h.265 support using the hevc

Yeah but it's all stuff we know. Get a card with lot's of vram for cheap or a card with an odd memory interface with updated codec support for cheap.

You pays your money and you takes your chance. I would take a 390X 8GB over a 970 any day but everyone is different.

The 960 is a great lil card, not just for codec but for budget gaming to.

 

[Boomstick777]

Does the 8GB 290X come with 3 display ports (and HDMI) like that?

Yeah the Tri X 390X does, guess it will depend on the model?

 

[Boomstick777]

Lol

 

[Boomstick777]

LOL.

The silly stories aren't about Fury, though.

Could he mean the stories that are about Fury?

That Fury X not being as fast as the 980 Ti,
or that the stories that it uses 300W or more,
or that it comes in a flimsy white box,
or that it'll run really hot because it doesn't have a fan on the card as well,
or that the fan for the radiator is the loudest fan ever,
or that it'll cost the same as Titan X (Or more if it beats it),
or that 4GB HBM isn't enough..


There could be some positives here, doesn't all have to be negative.

Only two days !!!

 

[Boomstick777]

Agreed. I don't care at all about rebrands and fair play but to rebrand a 290X as a 390X is just wrong IMO. Should be a 380 as you say.

Is a shame AMD chose this naming scheme, because undedicated people (In terms of PC) might not understand at first. Although I'm sure even those guys will pick it up after launch.

For most of us here who are more informed, we can see that the flagship is in fact the Fury X and Fury Pro being the second down, meaning that the 390X is the third down, exactly the same has happened with previous generations.

I.e GTX 680 becoming GTX 770 , and HD 7970 becoming R9 280.

GTX 680 > GTX 770

GTX 780 << New flagship (At launch, before 780 Ti came along)
GTX 770

HD 7970 > R9 280X

R9 290X << New flagship
R9 290
R9 280X

R9 290X > R9 390X

Fury X << New flagship
Fury Pro
R9 390X

Maybe somebody should put out an illustration, to make it simple for the uninformed to understand.

 

[Boomstick777]

That aint right.

7970 = 280X

7950 = 280.

I missed the X lol.

 

[Boomstick777]

Yep that cringeworthy video of the rebrand unboxing pretty much shows how the misinformed can be completely unaware it's really a two year old chip. There are people that will literally go in to best buy, see "new" on the shelf and pick it up. Sad but true.

Yeah it's almost as bad as people seeing 4GB on that 970 box and thinking that whole 4GB will run at the same speed.

So everyone agrees that 're-branding' is a common thing, and it's the semantics of the naming that people are so upset / confused about.

I'm sure in time, at least after the cards have actually launched people will be less confused.

 

[Boomstick777]

Watts!

I think he means the price of Nvidia's HBM cards. (When they get HBM.... Next year....)

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Man this E3 reveal can't come quick enough lol.

 

[Boomstick777]

...mentioned this up a few times when the subject of the 8800 re-brands has come up, the review sites at the time considered shrinking the die and changing the name to be re-branding the card, as did/do most people.

Yeah but it's cool when Nvidia do it, re-branding is fine yo. Apparently the semantics over the naming is making people lose their minds. It's just to complicated for some people.

Fury X (Flagship)
Fury Pro (Second card down)
390X (Mid - High end)


Posting that above to help people, as a lot here seem to be worried about that people buying a $389 / £250 card from best buy or PC world accidentally thinking it's the AMD: 980 Ti / Titan X equivalent.

 

[Boomstick777]

Lets rebrand everything, all the time. Everywhere.

It certainly wouldn't be cool if Nvidia did what AMD has. Which they haven't with 28nm.

But who on earth can be happy having a series of rebrands, which itself consisted of rebrands?

What? Nvidia have re-branded and put a card to the mid - high tier before. Just like AMD is doing. Is the naming confusing you?

I wander if people would be so accepting of a GTX 970 type situation had AMD done that.. I think probably... No no they wouldn't.

AMD take their previous flagship 290X 4GB. Double the VRAM as standard and drop the card down to mid - high end in their next stack. They introduce the worlds first HBM card as a flagship and decide to launch it at the first ever PC event at E3 which they have co organised. Yeah how shockingly awful of them..

Just terrible..

 

[Boomstick777]

But the 390X is going to be £350+. It's not going to be "mid-high end" priced. It's going to be high-end priced.

The Fury/X is going to be lolTitan pricing.

Lisa Su says AMD is not going to be a budget brand. So she took their budget cards, re-badged and slapped a premium price on them

Re-brands are horrid but we accept them, sometimes. Re-branding a 290X to a 390X and actually making it more expensive? Bye, AMD, nice knowing you (although you've been **** for a while now!).

They haven't dropped it down a tier, price wise. They've made a new tier above it. That's why the 390/X moniker makes sense, because they will price it like (or worse than) a 290/X.

The Fury is going to be hellish expensive. Certainly much more than the 290/X on release.

You know all the launch prices before they have launched. That's cool.

Just to put it out there, the current 'rumours' are $389 Dollars is £250 Pounds. You're expecting a £100 price hike at launch. Well I mean that could happen, but that's not AMD's fault.

 

[Boomstick777]

Firstly, 389$ is at least £311. Basic rule of thumb, multiply by 0.8.

Second, Best Buy are selling for 450$. That's £360.

Then add on UK price gouging in the initial few weeks/months of release.

These are 390X price, not the Fury.

I'll wait till launch for solid UK pricing etc.

Only two days to go !

 

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1 Day to go !