Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

[Boomstick777]

I'm a HBM believer, AMD are not stupid enough to gimp their own top card with 4GB if it doesn't work well at 4k. It was probably the first thing they tested.

You see the issue with Titanx and witcher 3 for example as the card cant sustain 60 fps maxed out nor can 980ti at 1080p!!!!!! why have 6 or 12gb when the card cant power up enough performance?

While DX12 changes this equation a bit Fury has enough ram with 4gb as nothing else indicate differently.

Very good points. Only 1 day to go to see how this matches up.

For all we know X amount of GDDR5 doesn't equate to X amount of HBM.Or like Floppers is saying, by the time a GPU core has enough grunt to really push 4K graphics we will have HBM 2.0 and higher amounts of HBM along with higher performing GPU. Maybe 8GB HBM is a better match for Pirate Islands / Pascal.

Not long to go ! Feels like been waiting for years for this E3, all the specualtion haha.

 

[Boomstick777]

Just out of interest, has anybody actually experienced any issue with the 970's memory yet, aside from running "that" synthetic memory benchmark or issues that are in line with 980 performance?

I seem to remember loads of raging at the time but nobody could actually find a real issue, including all the tech sites.

I think the main problem that caused the 'raging' apart from misleading spec, less ROPs, weird mem config etc was stuttering once games reach that 3.5GB and had to go use the slower memory. There's tons of videos / user feedback on the internetz.

 

[Boomstick777]

if it's such a non issue why equip the 390x with 8GB at all. [EDIT] As the gent above me has just said lol.

Maybe GDDR5 and HBM don't equate to the same thing, i.e the way a GDRR5 works might not be not quite the same as HBM??

I mean we literally know nothing at this point, HBM is completely new, this is the very first iteration. With only 1 day to go until we find out lol.

I will hold judgement until we actually see it in action. If it sucks I'll keep my Titan X if it's better I'll get a Fury X. What I won't do is moan and whine about something I haven't even seen yet.

 

[Boomstick777]

Can you explain this? as far as I know 1MB is 1MB in size regardless of whether it's FPM, EDO, SDR, DDR or Rambus...

Faster 4GB is still 4GB.

I've never used HBM or even seen it action. I'm holding judgement until we actually see the cards. HBM and GDDR5 are not the same things, they may not work in the same way. I will wait until we get more info before deciding if it's a good or bad card. I had fun with my 4GB GDDR5 980, will probably enjoy using AMD's 4GB HBM Fury X to.

1 day to go until we find out. Let's try and hold it together guys.

 

[Boomstick777]

+1

How people can argue about tech that's not been released yet, that we have nothing to compare to is beyond me. Either AMD have a cunning plan or have some explaining to do with their shareholders.

Yeah it's getting pretty weird in this thread ha.

Whoever has got the best hardware will get my cash, some of these guys are way to emotionally invested.

I think the Fury X power consumption could be deciding factor for me as I'm moving to a passive 520W PSU. I know a few guys that said a TX will be fine on that, not sure about Fury X. Could be a very power hungry card. I really do love the TX so Fury X will need to be pretty special for me to part with it. Looking forward to finally seeing what these new cards can do.

Only 1 more day to go to see what's what.

 

[Boomstick777]

You didn't need a TX anyway

Need doesn't come into it, I like to have the best.

Not interested in all this tittle tattle, like a gaggle of old lady's airing their grievances. It is pretty funny though, they don't even realise.. Brilliant

 

[Boomstick777]

You do tend to chop and change more than anyone I know including me and Kaap which is pretty shocking .


I meant more for the single card reasoning more than anything else

Loads of people on here buy new cards at every single launch, some buy 2 or even 4 cards. Why me buying one of em would be shocking I guess I don't understand. Unless someone can only buy from one brand for whatever reason. But then why limit yourself?

Yeah I'll just keep grabbing the latest and greatest rinse & repeat. Shocking though it is.

 

[Boomstick777]

Not faith, just not making assumptions one way or the other. Not even one day until we find out, seems ridiculous to be here discussing the pros and cons of a complete unknown. It will be what it will be, just a little bit of patience.

Exactly man, good to see some people with heads still screwed on. We can't compare 4GB HBM VS 4GB of GDDR5 because we just don't know anything about HBM yet. Will it hinder performance, will the games stutter when going from card to system.. We don't know yet.

Only 1 more day to go ! Looking forward to it if not just to end all the lameness.

 

[Boomstick777]

Your right we don't know anything about 4GB of HBM, but unfortunately we do know all about 4GB of game data, textures and the like. It doesn't matter whether you store them on a HDD, SSD, System ram or even GDDR5 video ram, they still take up 4GB of space. HBM will be no different.

Considering the VRAM is on the GPU, then I would only assume the latency between the system ram and vram is going to be the same as the cpu to gpu. Minimal.

Certainly a lot faster than the current system ram -> memory controller -> vram setup.

See this is the thing right here, both of these are logical statements. We just don't know how it will work real world in gaming.

If it's rubbish people won't buy it, if it's good people will. At least wait for reviews / user feedback before passing judgement. For the sake of competition and improving performance I hope Fury X is very good and gives Nvidia a run for their money against 980 Ti / Titan X.

Changing the subject, some sick games at E3. Need for Speed looks amazing (Hopefully not just smoke and mirrors), and Fallout. wow. Doom, OMG to many games !

 

[Boomstick777]

Wonder what card that is ?, single fan, styled like Fury, and dual DVIs.

Tiny PCB, single 6 pin and air / blower cooler. That's the reference AMD 370.

 

[Boomstick777]

Still hoping the Fury X is a TitanX killer. We need the competition as consumers, simple as that.

It needs to be, and it needs to be revealed today. If it's not then we may as well say AMD bye byes, as they will have played a terrible game with this cloak and dagger ****.

Exactly man, we need competition. If AMD can't do it. Who will?

Not long to go now, feels like been waiting for years. All the hen pecking and gaggling like a bunch of old lady's that's been done in this thread has aged me

 

[Boomstick777]

Is that just one power connector on there? Also an odd place to put it, half way along like that. So it could be a new HBM/Fiji card as could the placement on that power connector be where the end of the PCB is inside the outer casing?

So it basically looks like an air cooled Fury(X). Just an extended back end to house the fan.

Come on man, the Fury X uses 2 x 8 pin. This is the reference 370 !!!!!!

 

[Boomstick777]

Why are we expecting anything different than the Hawaii launch? We won't know the real performance of these cards until closer to launch day. Well, I am not expecting any reviews or anything until nearer the 24th of June.

Yeah expecting reveal of Fiji today a showcase some AMD benchmarks and demos. Then reviews samples will be sent out (Lol at all the whining reviewers) we'll probably get to buy it near end of the month. With the rest of 3XX series 'officially' (Some already selling it) on sale from today after the show or something.

 

[Boomstick777]

I don't know why I'm posting this, probably just another clickbait site with false info. But here is pricing that apparently differs from previous rumours. According to this, the 390x should be ~£300 (inc VAT ex UK-price-gouging). I'll only buy one if the performance is significantly better than the 970 at 1080p in games like GTAV and Crysis 3.
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-300-series-pricing-confirmed-aggressive/

Yeah my guess is £259.99+ at launch with some going for around £299 / £319 depending on the brand (ASUS).

Tbh an 390 8GB / 390X 8GB aren't bad cards VS the 970 / 980.

 

[Boomstick777]

Where did you get that from? A straight conversion + VAT puts the 290x at £300 minimum.

Ha, I even underlined it. Ok I'll try again. My guess is from £259.99 and upwards. None of the pricing so far can be confirmed legit as any retailer selling before NDA ends could be doing so with a price hike. I will just wait for UK pricing.

I very nearly bought a Sapphire 290x Vapor-x 4GB earlier for £230 delivered (£12 delivery!) but had to stop myself

Why!? That's not even a good deal lol. At least wait until today is over to see what's what.

 

[Boomstick777]

Arp! Arp! Arp!

 

[Boomstick777]

That is not a single 6-pin, its the bios switch. Also they showed the fiji gpu with HBM before the card which points it to being an aircooled Fiji reference card (Fury Pro or XT). So not a 370 for sure.

Get yourself down to specsavers son. That's a 6 pin and it's the ref 370.

 

[Boomstick777]

I hope this is Fud, from, well Fud.

That's what I thought was happening for a while now. AMD announce and reveal on 16th Fiji comes at end of month after reviews get chance to review.

(This is why I don't understand the reviewers crying, especially on twitter etc )

 

[Boomstick777]

No sign of these yet?

The AMD event hasn't started yet. Starts around around 5pm?

http://www.twitch.tv/amd

 

[Boomstick777]

980 Ti prices have seen an increase today even though they are not in stock. Inside knowledge ahead of the launch?

Or last chance price raise due to limited stock (980 Ti is in demand) and incoming Fury X launch?

Could be anything lol.