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Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)
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Having just seen the Dr who Christmas special, small oranges do make an appearance.
(don't worry this really isn't a spoiler if you haven't seen it yet.)
Caporegime
yes AMD have to improve their product quite a lot, lets hope it doesn't look like the 295X2 with its silly water cooler... or the way too large 290X, but my guess is that after the brilliant 970 that AMD has learnt its lesson.
more importantly AMDs corporate image is wrong, their target consumer is a young immature gamer, they need to tone everything down become more minimalistic, they are also produce a very dodgy product.............i.e the 7990 isn't just poorly cooled it's a blindingly obvious design fault, it's so ****** bad that it scares you off their other cards, it has a strong knock on effect, AMD looks cheap and nasty.............very Chinese
AMD reminds me of that truck the A-Team drove, black with a red stripe, it's noisy, runs way too hot, constantly breaks down and looking so 1980s... it's all fart fart hot air
Soldato
yes AMD have to improve their product quite a lot, lets hope it doesn't look like the 295X2 with its silly water cooler... or the way too large 290X, but my guess is that after the brilliant 970 that AMD has learnt its lesson.
more importantly AMDs corporate image is wrong, their target consumer is a young immature gamer, they need to tone everything down become more minimalistic, they are also produce a very dodgy product.............i.e the 7990 isn't just poorly cooled it's a blindingly obvious design fault, it's so ****** bad that it scares you off their other cards, it has a strong knock on effect, AMD looks cheap and nasty.............very Chinese
AMD reminds me of that truck the A-Team drove, black with a red stripe, it's noisy, runs way too hot, constantly breaks down and looking so 1980s... it's all fart fart hot air
And the current generation NV dual card is the Titan-Z
Ill take the 295X2 thanks and the 295X2 and 7990 are not for the young immature gamer so its seems like you should have not bought the 7990 and which is not the average gaming card which would not put anyone off the other cards who have the ability to differentiate that fact and that all cards are not equal.
And you are saying it took the 970 to teach the 290 a lesson which means you are saying that NV didn't have anything to teach beforehand.
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I'd take the 295x2 over the Titan Z allllllllllllllll day long 
*ahem* Slightly biased
*ahem* Slightly biased
Soldato
Because I'm critical.
When I hand over hundreds of pounds for a slab of plastic and silicon I expect it to meet expectations. Expectations whipped up by the company selling it.
When it doesn't? I like to complain.
Any decent company will take their critics on the chin and strive to make things better. If they don't? look at what happens to companies who don't listen /looks at OCZ and Zalman.
I said that I would never buy another AMD GPU until they sorted out their drivers. So I never said never ! instead of listening to my critique people just want to argue. Hint - that won't get me buying AMD GPUs again.
If I had a penny for every time some one wrongly said that AMD drivers were now good and fixed I would be a rich man. At last attempt (about a month ago) I was still having issues with them.
It's fair to say that I spend pretty much all of my disposable income on computer hardware. I don't really do anything else, so I tend to buy a lot of computer hardware.
AMD should listen to people like me and try to appease my concerns, not argue the toss with me and try and debate things. That's not how good business works.
All that's happened is that I am now even more dead set against using AMD graphics cards.
Soldato
Your issues are pretty much isolated regardless of how much you think they are not and the frame pacing is old news thats been improved a long time ago.
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Soldato
If the drivers was so bad why is it I never had an issue? Honest question? Surely I would be in the same boat, we download the same release.
Because of an argument , if that, on a internet forum?
I agree you shouldn't settle and put up with faults but you also have to appreciate that others will not have had so many or even any issues running AMD GPU's. So your absolute statements just do not match their experiences. With so many use scenario's and combinations there are bound to be some that cause the odd problem for someone. At least one of yours looks to have been using the wrong driver cleaner tool and another the use of unsupported hardware on an Apple OS.
Soldato
Both of witch = user error but Andy would never agree to that. So it must be AMDs fault.
Don
Zalman's problems were brought about by their parent company strategy and financial restrictions - nothing to with not listening to customers/reviews. OCZ, again believe it was mostly financial with them overstretching themselves. Most companies release bad products at some time - most learn and survive - Nvidia has released bad products, as have AMD - not sure what point you are really making - as can't see AMD going anywhere anytime soon.
If the whole world was having driver problems with AMD, then surely people would start voting with their wallets??? Last figures I can find 2014 Q2, put AMD and NVIDIA sales on par at 17%.
sauce:
http://hexus.net/business/news/components/76997-jpr-report-shows-nvidia-taking-gpu-market-share-amd/
Soldato
Both of which you are blaming me, both of which happened.
Put it this way, it never happened when installing an Nvidia driver. If AMD recommend you run their cleanup tool before installing Mantle drivers and it wipes out the entire system that's their fault.
Your arguing with me will not make me buy AMD. The only way that will happen is if they actually listen and stop sticking fingers in ears and arguing.
What do you think you can do here? argue me around and make me buy another AMD GPU? lol, good luck with that.
ok to stop this going round in circles covering another 15 pages of bs.
Let's discuss what driver issues you experienced and what driver issues you would like to see corrected or reassured that they won't present an issue.
bullet point all your issues
I bought amd and continue to buy them as they are simple the best.
Nvidia cheapens down on stuff so they broke down or go coilwhine.
dual gpu either brand are technological inferior to single gpu.
User error are really common, when you see someone with 3 year old computers buying the latest tech and then ask why it might have an issue without updating bios driver etc..I once met a guy who never installed new drivers for 4 whole years to his gpu a so called user error.
Nvidia cheapens down on stuff so they broke down or go coilwhine.
dual gpu either brand are technological inferior to single gpu.
User error are really common, when you see someone with 3 year old computers buying the latest tech and then ask why it might have an issue without updating bios driver etc..I once met a guy who never installed new drivers for 4 whole years to his gpu a so called user error.
Caporegime
Another thread bites the dust....
Many pages of off topic drivel.
Why speak off drivers in a 390x/380x rumors thread?
And please dont end the year 2014 with Amd vs Nvida flame war.
Come now Mr Pulse.... It wouldn't be OcUK if every thread didn't turn into nVidia vS AMD
On a lighter note, I feel the lack of news from both camps makes everyone a little bored and people have money to spend on shiny but no shiny makes shiny lovers bored and it then digresses into "my current shiny is better than your shiny", with another shiny lover retaliating with "Dude!!! no way is your shiny better than my shiny"
Soldato
Anecdotal evidence doesn't equal a general trend.
You might have had a bad experience with AMD drivers, but I don't see why they should 'listen to people like you' when there don't seem to be that many people like you out there, especially as their drivers have got better for a majority.
Of course ideally there wouldn't ever be driver issues, but that will never happen with either AMD or Nvidia.
Soldato
Just forget OSX. OK? That's not why I don't buy AMD GPUs.
Many people have had bad experiences on both sides. When that happens it puts you off, some for life.
As I maintain - if AMD actually listen and sort out the problems I have had? then heck, I may buy the 390x or whatever it's called.
Too many PC companies simply do not listen to their users. Do you remember all the threads about micro stutter on Crossfire when it was broken? the amount of people complaining? what did AMD do about that? nothing. Had they got on the case before being exposed as liars and introduced Frame Pacing long before they were forced to then I'd believe in them a bit more than I do.
With PC stuff it's like companies will continue to go about things their way refusing to listen to what we want until the point of bankruptcy. Where as, all they really need to do is get into threads like this, listen to their customer's grievances and then maybe apologise and promise to implement fixes?
But no, can't have that, must sit and argue with end user to prove that he's wrong.
Listen. A a company that ignores micro stutter even when they know what's causing it and continuing to push Crossfire and get people buying two cards that don't work have an awful lot of making up to do.
I don't care if it's fixed now, that's irrelevant and did not stop me completely wasting £140 on an extra GPU for a system that simply did not work.
Do they really expect me to have that short a memory?
So this thread is about their upcoming GPUs. So I'm saying look, I refuse to buy said GPUs until you fix the drivers to the point that they're at the same quality level as Nvidia's. Now I'm being told I'm ruining a thread when really this is a golden opportunity for AMD to put things right and then try and win me back yes?
Not sit and argue with me until I come to the realisation that they really are as ignorant as I suspected?
Matt can feel free to argue with me, that won't change things. What he could do is relay my concerns right back to AMD and get them to sort things out?
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