Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

RavenXXX2 · 8 Jun 2015 at 11:38

AMD R7 370 Pictured, a Confirmed R9 270 rebrand

http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/amd_r7_370_pictured_a_confirmed_r9_270_rebrand/1

Martini1991 · 8 Jun 2015 at 11:40

I'd kind of hoped a 370 would be an R9 280, progression and all that?

Sacrifice · 8 Jun 2015 at 11:41

RavenXXX2 said:
http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/amd_r7_370_pictured_a_confirmed_r9_270_rebrand/1

So they infer the GNC version, and the fact it's a rebrand only, from the presence of a single crossfire pin? Seems some strange assumptions being made?

P.B · 8 Jun 2015 at 11:43

Thanks not good basically well have them line up with just added fury at the top.

ubersonic · 8 Jun 2015 at 11:45

Martini1991 said:
If they end up a higher clocked 290X, then how can anyone defend them ?

The same way that people defended the GTX770, R280X, GTX9800/GTS250*, HD6970, etc. Being a higher clocked and discounted version of an older card doesn't stop something being great price/performance.

*both the same card, over the years it got rebranded six times in total lol.

bru · 8 Jun 2015 at 11:48

Sacrifice said:
So they infer the GNC version, and the fact it's a rebrand only, from the presence of a single crossfire pin? Seems some strange assumptions being made?

Not really seeing as the newer GCN architecture doesn't need crossfire fingers as it uses XDMA to do the crossfire via the PCIe bus. Why put crossfire bridge on the card if it is not needed.

Of course it does actually say all of that in the article, but like many I'm sure you took one look at the picture and just dismissed it out of hand.

I'm quite liking the look of the new shroud with a fan though.

Martini1991 · 8 Jun 2015 at 11:50

ubersonic said:
The same way that people defended the GTX770, R280X, GTX9800/GTS250*, HD6970, etc. Being a higher clocked and discounted version of an older card doesn't stop something being great price/performance.

*both the same card, over the years it got rebranded six times in total lol.

But this is a bit difference if it's being the highest tier card type thing?
When the 7970 was rebranded, it was calling the 280X, with two cards above it.

P.B · 8 Jun 2015 at 11:52

ubersonic said:
The same way that people defended the GTX770, R280X, GTX9800/GTS250*, HD6970, etc. Being a higher clocked and discounted version of an older card doesn't stop something being great price/performance.

*both the same card, over the years it got rebranded six times in total lol.

lol that was the g80 was it not ? 8800 gtx 8800 ultra 8800 gt 9800 gtx 9800 gt and finally the 250 gts

Mtom · 8 Jun 2015 at 11:52

Martini1991 said:
But this is a bit difference if it's being the highest tier card type thing?
When the 7970 was rebranded, it was calling the 280X, with two cards above it.

Now the 390X will have 2 (or 3) cards above it, just their names will be different...

Martini1991 · 8 Jun 2015 at 11:54

Mtom said:
Now the 390X will have 2 (or 3) cards above it, just their names will be different...

It just seeks to confuse people more though.

I'll remain pessimistic, but lets see how this goes.

humbug · 8 Jun 2015 at 12:01

I'm going to have fun with this thread on the 17/06/15.

mmj_uk · 8 Jun 2015 at 12:03

AMD's R7 370 GPU has been pictured, confirming that the GPU will be a R9 270 rebrand and will not feature AMD's GCN 1.2 architecture.

If the 390X has not been updated to GCN 1.2 either then this refresh is going to be one hell of an epic embarrassment for AMD.

It'd be no wonder why they would need tessellation cheats in their drivers if they can't even bothered to improve tessellation performance, which wasn't even that good in 2013 when 290X initially released.

humbug · 8 Jun 2015 at 12:12

Silent_Scone said:
I'll be sure to quote in a week or two when you hit a new peak of daft.

What, really? your hedging your bets that the surplus stock 260/270/280/290 cards OEM Desktop vendors bought up and renamed R9 300 series are somehow also going to be retail stock with no proof of it and every bit of common sense saying 'don't be daft'

SimBy · 8 Jun 2015 at 12:14

mmj_uk said:
If the 390X has not been updated to GCN 1.2 either then this refresh is going to be one hell of an epic embarrassment for AMD.

It'd be no wonder why they would need tessellation cheats in their drivers if they can't even bothered to improve tessellation performance, which wasn't even that good in 2013 when 290X initially released.

When budgets are tight you have to prioritize. I know that majority of R&D budget went for 'Zen'. And then there is Fiji with HBM and interposer.

mururoa · 8 Jun 2015 at 12:21

ubersonic said:
The same way that people defended the GTX770, R280X, GTX9800/GTS250*, HD6970, etc.

HD6970 was not a rebrand of anything.

bru · 8 Jun 2015 at 12:21

ubersonic said:
The same way that people defended the GTX770, R280X, GTX9800/GTS250*, HD6970, etc. Being a higher clocked and discounted version of an older card doesn't stop something being great price/performance.

*both the same card, over the years it got rebranded six times in total lol.

To be fair to the wonderful G80 GPU and its derivatives, it did not get rebranded six times at all.

8800 GTX G80 90nm 128 shaders

8800 ultra G80 90nm 128 shaders

8800 GTS 512 G80 65nm 128 shaders

9800 GTX G92 65nm 128 shaders

9800 GTX+ G92b 55nm 128 shaders

GTS 250 G92b 55nm 128 shaders

GTS 250 green G92b 55nm 128 shaders

You certainly cannot count a different chip on a die shrink rebrand. So that looks to me to only be a maximum of three rebrands, which I agree is still quite a lot

LoadsaMoney · 8 Jun 2015 at 12:23

mmj_uk said:
If the 390X has not been updated to GCN 1.2 either then this refresh is going to be one hell of an epic embarrassment for AMD.

It'd be no wonder why they would need tessellation cheats in their drivers if they can't even bothered to improve tessellation performance, which wasn't even that good in 2013 when 290X initially released.

Nvidia should pop that so called 'cheat' into their drivers as well, as loads of their users would kill for it

Martini1991 · 8 Jun 2015 at 12:28

humbug said:
I'm going to have fun with this thread on the 17/06/15.

I hope you do.
There's no way I can believe the 390x is going to be a 290x rebrand, if it is, and there's 3 higher tier models, well. It makes more sense, but I don't see the point.

bru · 8 Jun 2015 at 12:29

humbug said:
What, really? your hedging your bets that the surplus stock 260/270/280/290 cards OEM Desktop vendors bought up and renamed R9 300 series are somehow also going to be retail stock with no proof of it and every bit of common sense saying 'don't be daft'

It is exactly that, surely AMD cannot be that daft. I really hope your right and AMD really have done some more tweaking rather than just a slight clock bump.

humbug said:
I'm going to have fun with this thread on the 17/06/15.

I imagine this thread will be closed by the mods before there is too much "I told you so" allowed :eek:

Mei · 8 Jun 2015 at 12:32

that would be ironic the thread being closed when theres some actual real news!