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The amount of 970s sold probably hint at it being more than just features lol.
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It was everyone I know who bought one couldn't stop talking about features from Gsync or DSR.. Plus the added advantage of pricing on launch..
If one thing is for sure is that amd was a bit slow on bring the pricing of its own GPUs down to counter it..
But as things now stand performance for pricing the 290 is still king.
But having the best bang for buck is due to having no card to compete with Nvidia equivelants. They had no option but to reduce prices on the R9 290/X range to ridiculously (for them) low levels. Even at these prices they are not genuine competition for even a GTX970. They are just as fast but require more power and as such have far more heat to dissipate.
There comes a point when even the most ardent AMD supporter has to accept the Nvidia alternatives are far more attractive to a GPU enthusiast.
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Nobody cared because both camps always had similar performance per watt. Maxwell despite being somewhat lacklustre in overall performance makes up for it by sipping power.
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Overall power efficiency does matter but its not so much that.
Maxwell has an intelligent power switching system, if it doesn't need to run at full power it wont where as AMD's current GPU's pull all the power that's available just because its there.
Its like the difference between a car engine with an old fashioned carburetor and a modern computer controlled fuel injection system.
AMD do have to implement a similar system, power draw is the big issue of today, if AMD are always 30 or 40% behind on efficiency they will never have a sustainable market share, they will not be able to sell enough units to fund R&D.
20 to 30% of the market at low margins is not sustainable, if AMD can't implement a similar power switch system to Maxwell by early this year they will not have the revenue to continue development, which means they will fall further and further behind and become irrelevant in the GPU market pretty fast.
Maxwell has an intelligent power switching system, if it doesn't need to run at full power it wont where as AMD's current GPU's pull all the power that's available just because its there.
Its like the difference between a car engine with an old fashioned carburetor and a modern computer controlled fuel injection system.
AMD do have to implement a similar system, power draw is the big issue of today, if AMD are always 30 or 40% behind on efficiency they will never have a sustainable market share, they will not be able to sell enough units to fund R&D.
20 to 30% of the market at low margins is not sustainable, if AMD can't implement a similar power switch system to Maxwell by early this year they will not have the revenue to continue development, which means they will fall further and further behind and become irrelevant in the GPU market pretty fast.
Are you kidding, were you not around when the 480 launched. It meant everything to certain crowds...
I'm sure I read that AMD are working on a driver solution for more power efficiency with current cards. No doubt newer cards will have better power efficiency baked in. Plus a die shrink and eventual HBM will reduce power consumption further. I think enthusiasts still prefer performance VS power consumption, just that right now Nvidia have both.
We still haven't seen AMD's new stuff yet though. I have a feeling once we do it will be back per the norm with each camp trading blows etc. AMD should get a move on though, Maxwell is really popular...
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So are we any closer to getting a release date of these new cards?
Power consumption is not that big a deal from a user perspective, if people cared that much about being green they'd be running dual core systems with low-mid range GPU's or even a gaming laptop.
Heat is the main problem with AMD cards, they pump out far more heat made worse by the fact that AMD's stock blower is not fit for purpose unless you're either deaf or don't mind throttling. As a physical product NVidia cards are just far more elegant, a lot of AMD fanboys don't seem to understand that because they have tunnel vision and can't see past price, benchmarks and paper specs like bus sizes.
Heat is the main problem with AMD cards, they pump out far more heat made worse by the fact that AMD's stock blower is not fit for purpose unless you're either deaf or don't mind throttling. As a physical product NVidia cards are just far more elegant, a lot of AMD fanboys don't seem to understand that because they have tunnel vision and can't see past price, benchmarks and paper specs like bus sizes.
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You know something mmj, reading through that i was forming a response in my head to agree with most of what you said, that was until i got to the line that reads "AMD Fanboy's blah blah blah...." thats when i realised its just yet another typical mmj post.
Are you not capable of writing a single post that isn't designed to get peoples backs up?
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you need to work on your posts which help keeping your pants up, said Kaap
Bru has a point, thats why i'm leaving it where it is. don't go following me around the forum with it. Thats far worse than anything you accuse me of.
I haven't accused you of anything son, chill.
You made points some I agree, others I don't,
Same as Kaap some of his ideas I agree others I don't.
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jees I thought I was getting old
Look at it this way, even when you are old and cranky like me Computer Hardware and PC Gaming is still very much a passion alive, and i'm still quick enough to show those youngsters up in BF4.
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