Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

Ayahuasca · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:02

Imagine if the 390x alone gets close to the 980ti :eek:

Mtom · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:02

Omg we are at the "amd needs to be twice as fast for half the price, with 5AAA games, and maybe i consider getting one" phase again...

DBT85 · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:06

I did think they would improved chips for the top two rather than just rebrands.

It's the only way the prices bandied about made sense.

humbug · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:06

Boomstick777 said:
AMD R9 R380 and R390 have respun chips

Improved Hawaii and Tonga launch on the 18th

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/37967-amd-r9-r380-and-r390-have-respun-chips

There people are like Red Top Tabloids, fabricating all their junk.

Gregster · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:09

Where is the graph from? I can't even read it lol

humbug · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:14

Gregster said:
Where is the graph from? I can't even read it lol

A few pages back, i can read it, lol.....

Winky_The_Winking_Turtle · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:14

I really hope they're not just rebrands. I have a 7850 and I'm having trouble convincing myself to "upgrade" to a 2013 (albeit late 2013) 290, or supposed re-brand equivalent. Feels like I'm just buying more powerful, but outdated tech.

humbug · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:15

Gregster · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:16

humbug said:
A few pages back, i can read it, lol.....

I could drop to 1080P or scroll the web size but not that fuseed and I meant from what site? I see you post it earlier as evidence, so I assume it is from AMD?

humbug · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:17

Gregster said:
I could drop to 1080P or scroll the web size but not that fuseed and I meant from what site? I see you post it earlier as evidence, so I assume it is from AMD?

Nothing in here is from AMD.

Mtom · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:17

I doubt the 390X (Grenada XT ) will come at 1242MHz...would be a killer but i don't see this could happen

humbug · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:21

Mtom said:
I doubt the 390X (Grenada XT ) will come at 1242MHz...would be a killer but i don't see this could happen

The 380X Grenada XT?

well, if it is true Grenada XT is not Hawaii XT... wait! Grenada XT and Hwaii XT aren't even spelt the same :eek:

With GCN 1.2/1.3 thats your <GTX 980TI right there.

Gregster · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:25

humbug said:
Nothing in here is from AMD.

Ahhh, so still we have loads of unconfirmed graphs and charts and rumours but nothing of fact

bru · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:25

There you go greg.

Martini1991 · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:27

How are people going to judge HBM's success btw?
If the highest tier AMD card is a beast, how can you judge HBM's involvement in that?

Gregster · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:27

bru said:
There you go greg.

Thanks Bru and that I can read

Ayahuasca · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:29

Martini1991 said:
How are people going to judge HBM's success btw?
If the highest tier AMD card is a beast, how can you judge HBM's involvement in that?

There's probably ways and means to test whether HBM is giving increased performance or whether HBM power savings have allowed increased core power.

ltron · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:33

humbug said:
Undercutting Nvidia does not work, they have so much brand power people are willing to pay far more for less just because its Nvidia

I agree with this. If the performance is there then AMD have a right to charge for it. I think if AMD really want to win back market share their cards have to be significantly better i.e. 20%+ faster than Nvidia's, albeit at a competitive price that doesn't sell themselves short.

However, I don't think they should exceed the pricing of the Titan X since Nvidia themselves have made it irrelevant with the 980Ti. 100-200 pounds below the Titan should be fine if it is significantly faster.

From my experience, AMD's single gpu drivers are pretty good, I never had a TDR with them while I've had quite a few with NVidia's (ironically the latest drivers are perfectly stable for me). Although Nvidia's multi-gpu support has been far superior (compared to AMD 4870X2).

With the advent of the next generation APIs, these constant driver releases will hopefully be unnecessary and a thing of the past anyway as it will be the game developer's job and drivers will be released for bug fixes only.

Basically, I hope these cards give Nvidia a well-deserved kick in the backside so that they're not able to release a ludicrously expensive TitanX and then a month later release a card that's just as fast for half the price.

It's a miracle of marketing that they are able to get away with this, particularly since Titan X doesn't have the Double Precision compute power of previous Titans.

Martini1991 · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:33

Ayahuasca said:
There's probably ways and means to test whether HBM is giving increased performance or whether HBM power savings have allowed increased core power.

Surely the only way is two compare the exact same card, HBM versus GDDR5, which is impossible?
Synthetic benchmarks will obviously show a gain for HBM memory, in say the bandwidth it can give etc, but I'm not sure how we can gauge how that's helping a game.

Ayahuasca · 10 Jun 2015 at 14:35

Martini1991 said:
Surely the only way is two compare the exact same card, HBM versus GDDR5, which is impossible?
Synthetic benchmarks will obviously show a gain for HBM memory, in say the bandwidth it can give etc, but I'm not sure how we can gauge how that's helping a game.

To be honest I doubt most will really care how it's faster as long as it is faster. HBM is still a step forward and whilst the 1st generation of it might not give massive improvements it's going to help in the future.