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Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

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Mtom said:
Omg we are at the "amd needs to be twice as fast for half the price, with 5AAA games, and maybe i consider getting one" phase again...
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You wot m8?

It needs to run at 10 degrees, any hotter and the pc will set on fire and burn down the neighbourhood, they need to up their game and release drivers every 48 hours to stay competitive, they need to advertise on every television station known to man, they need to host every upcoming pc event in the near future, and also include the entire steam library as a bundled game package.

Their top end card must also be half the price of the Titan X, whilst providing twice the performance.

#LOLAMD #LIDLSHOPPERS #POUNDSTRETCHERCREW
 
ltron said:
I agree with this. If the performance is there then AMD have a right to charge for it. I think if AMD really want to win back market share their cards have to be significantly better i.e. 20%+ faster than Nvidia's, albeit at a competitive price that doesn't sell themselves short.

However, I don't think they should exceed the pricing of the Titan X since Nvidia themselves have made it irrelevant with the 980Ti. 100-200 pounds below the Titan should be fine if it is significantly faster.

From my experience, AMD's single gpu drivers are pretty good, I never had a TDR with them while I've had quite a few with NVidia's (ironically the latest drivers are perfectly stable for me). Although Nvidia's multi-gpu support has been far superior (compared to AMD 4870X2).

With the advent of the next generation APIs, these constant driver releases will hopefully be unnecessary and a thing of the past anyway as it will be the game developer's job and drivers will be released for bug fixes only.

Basically, I hope these cards give Nvidia a well-deserved kick in the backside so that they're not able to release a ludicrously expensive TitanX and then a month later release a card that's just as fast for half the price.

It's a miracle of marketing that they are able to get away with this, particularly since Titan X doesn't have the Double Precision compute power of previous Titans.
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Yeah, i don't think AMD need to be selling the Fury-X for more than £600 to make a very healthy profit on it, anything £100 or more less than that would probably have significantly lower margins and i doubt would make a significant difference to their sale numbers. Depending on performance of course. if its no faster than the 980TI they may have a problem.

It also doesn't do much for their brand image going cheap, it makes them look cheap, a lot of people think if something is cheap then its crap.

To get a better brand image ironically they might have to become a bit more expensive, a Halo Card naming scheme will help that.
 

AMD Fiji X 'Nano' £699 VS Titan X £850+
AMD Fiji X £649 VS Titan X £850+
AMD Fiji Pro £499 VS 980 Ti £550+
AMD 390X 8GB £349 VS 980 £389+
AMD 390 8GB £249 VS 970 £249+


My guess is something like that.
 
And the consumer ends up worse off with these higher tier of pricing.

There should be a performance improvement at the same price that the prior gen launched for. Anything less is disappointing (Bearing in mind Nvidia already broke that protocol when they introduced brand new price points, and the crazies have lapped it up and given it a place, and now you're seemingly all happy to accept it as a standard price bracket. So well done.)
Otherwise, you people will spend increasing amounts every 18 months, which is the opposite of progression.
 
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Martini1991 said:
Surely the only way is two compare the exact same card, HBM versus GDDR5, which is impossible?
Synthetic benchmarks will obviously show a gain for HBM memory, in say the bandwidth it can give etc, but I'm not sure how we can gauge how that's helping a game.
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Run the card around the Heaven 4 bench and underclock the memory until it takes a performance hit.

If HBM is as good as we keep getting told even a 30% or 40% underclock on the memory will make no difference.
 
Boomstick777 said:

AMD Fiji X 'Nano' £699 VS Titan X £850+
AMD Fiji X £649 VS Titan X £850+
AMD Fiji Pro £499 VS 980 Ti £550+
AMD 390X 8GB £349 VS 980 £389+
AMD 390 8GB £249 VS 970 £249+


My guess is something like that.
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Looks good.

Martini1991 said:
And the consumer ends up worse off with these higher tier of pricing.
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It would be good if AMD actually forced lower tier pricing and made enough money for profits and R&D at the same time, but its not working, at all.

For the good of all involved i would rather AMD charged a bit more so they can exists and even have some income.
 
humbug said:
It would be good if AMD actually forced lower tier pricing and made enough money for profits and R&D, but its not working, at all.

for the good of all involved i would rather AMD charged a bit more so they can exists and even have some income.
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I don't want bargain basement GPU's.
But this 800-900 quid single GPU lark is... Well, less said of my opinion about it the better.

A lot of AMD's stuff not working out is due to inferiority, priced as it belongs, things will sell.

AMD could have a Titan X clone (Or every other Nvidia GPU), it'll never sell as well at the same price point (Because of everything else).

I'm not in the market for a GPU over £500, but then I never have, and I've owned a ton of launch day flag ships.

All I want is a card to replace my 290X, at the same price point that a 290X launched for, with 40% gain. After 18 months, something that doesn't fit those requirements is a fail for me, and people who keep lapping these products up are doing damage to consumers overall positioning.
 
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ubersonic said:
You can see it's only 120mm.
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Eh, would you care to elaborate, the end of the rad is missing it has been cropped so you cannot see the end of the radiator or the end of the fan.

Or do I need to go to specsavers. :)

Don't get me wrong I do suspect that it is only 120mm, but that image definitely does not confirm that.
 
bru said:
Eh, would you care to elaborate, the end of the rad is missing it has been cropped so you cannot see the end of the radiator or the end of the fan.

Or do I need to go to specsavers. :)

Don't get me wrong I do suspect that it is only 120mm, but that image definitely does not confirm that.
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Judging by how the pipes are edging at the end, I would say it is a 120 rad.
 
bru said:
Eh, would you care to elaborate, the end of the rad is missing it has been cropped so you cannot see the end of the radiator or the end of the fan.

Or do I need to go to specsavers. :)

Don't get me wrong I do suspect that it is only 120mm, but that image definitely does not confirm that.
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Sorry should have explained, in the picture the is visibly only one fan, the tubes are in line with where they would connect on a 120mm (they would go through a 240mm at that angle) and lastly but probably most important, if you look at the rivets on the side of the rad, the one on the right is before the end of the fan indicating 120mm, if it was 240/360mm then it would be placed right in the join between two fans.

*EDIT: this is what I mean about the rivet position giving it away:

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Martini1991 said:
I don't want bargain basement GPU's.
But this 800-900 quid single GPU lark is... Well, less said of my opinion about it the better.

A lot of AMD's stuff not working out is due to inferiority, priced as it belongs, things will sell.

AMD could have a Titan X clone (Or every other Nvidia GPU), it'll never sell as well at the same price point (Because of everything else).

I'm not in the market for a GPU over £500, but then I never have, and I've owned a ton of launch day flag ships.

All I want is a card to replace my 290X, at the same price point that a 290X launched for, with 40% gain. After 18 months, something that doesn't fit those requirements is a fail for me.
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AMD's GPU's could be far superior yet still be inferior, if they are cheaper they are automatically inferior, if they are not Nvidia they are automatically inferior.

Sure that is not a blanket truth ^^^^ but there is some significant truth in it.

AMD need to find a balance as well as improve their brand image, Lacking in somethings as they currently do is not helping, but being dirt cheap also isn't helping and they cannot improve the former without R&D.

AMD can still be cheaper than Nvidia and make money and improve their Brand image.

They need to tackle their Game Works Driver support whatever the reason for that is they must get the problem solved. end of!

They need to look at Nvidia for end user features because this is something Nvidia have got absolutely right.

They need to put a ban on AIB Vendors using sub par components like dodgy Elpida Memory IC's, i think Nvidia have, AMD need to do the same.
 
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