Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

[Boomstick777]

Tbh Boom, you change kit more often than a normal person changes their underwear.

Iirc you had a corking 4790k, few weeks later your on X99. Keeping track of your upgrades is like chasing a greyhound on one leg.

Haha, I like trying all the latest stuff bud, I was always gonna go to X99 the 4790K was something to play with until then. I'll be on this X99 setup until 2016 now, with a broadwell -E drop in upgrade later on. So that's not gonna be changed anytime soon lol.

 

[Boomstick777]

Yes, 8gb cards or 6 minimum are a must for next gen imo. Im still on Z87 with a 4790k at 4.7ghz, spare rig is an old i7 930 at 4.3ghz. Yes ive been tempted by X99 but id have to go 6 core/12 thread to justify it. 5820k just doesnt offer that much more than a decent clocked 4790k despite its heat issues. Card wise, yes im starting to regret my decision to stick x2 windforce 780's in sli. Especially in the board in sig. Cracking board from a tweaking/overclocking point of view, but poor for sli. But it looks fantastic.

5820K is 6 core / 12 thread. Performance is a fair step up from 4790K, even with a small overclock it's in 4960X territory. Not bad for the price. Next year will throw in an 8 core Broadwell E monster

780's are nice cards, ride them out until we get a die shrink imho. Saying that we haven't seen big Maxwell yet, even on 28nm that's likely to be a monster and hard to resist

 

[Boomstick777]

AMD will manufacture GPUs at Global Foundries

In our previous post about 16nm TCSM we've been wondering as to why AMD was not on the 16nm fab list, whereas other players like Nvidia have been named. The answer just came to us though, AMD will manufacture their GPU at Global Foundries.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-will-manufacture-gpus-at-global-foundries.html

 

[Boomstick777]

No, it won't be "many months" because the Hawaii v2 is clearly supposed to fill the gap until Summer.

Yeah this is coming soon, Jan / Feb 2015, followed by cards based on new architecture in summer 2015.

Looking forward to new AMD cards, let's hope they are a big leap and not another round of incremental milking from both camps.

 

[Boomstick777]

Reading between the lines from AMD's comments, it looks as if the upcoming interim GPU to take on the 970 / 980, will be based on 28nm but using HBM. So a combo of cutting edge tech and established node so that it's a cost effective solution until a new node transition is available later in 2015. Cooled by an AIO to keep it running nice and cool / quiet.

My guess is, upcoming card:

28nm.
HBM.
AIO Cooling.
3000+ Shaders.

Summer 2015 Cards:

20nm/14nm.
HBM.
Air cooling. (Except Dual card)
4000+ Shaders.

 

[Boomstick777]

20nm and 14nm are not suitable for GPUs, we've been through this before...

The only option for a Summer launch is 28nm. There are now ways of making 28nm chips that are better than regular 20nm however. Anything after about July or so you should expect 16FF+ from TSMC. But if AMD are staying loyal to GF that leaves them without an option for a proper shrink.

Ha, so you think AMD won't have a die shrink at all. You crazy mate . We'll see 20nm or 14nm FinFET (14LPP) used by AMD if they don't go with TSMC.

Of course they will get a die shrink lol. So yeah,

My prediction is,

Upcoming card:

28nm.
HBM.
AIO Cooling.
3000+ Shaders.

Summer 2015 Cards:

20nm/14nm.
HBM.
Air cooling. (Except Dual card)
4000+ Shaders.

What's yours?

 

[Boomstick777]

^^ So serious

Also I only made 1 prediction Mr serious, your just to scared to do the same

Boring..

 

[Boomstick777]

I'm not

Upcoming card: probably late Jan/Feb, but maybe announced last minute before Xmas

28nm.
GDDR 5 memory
Air Cooling.
3328+ Shaders.

Autumn/winter 2015/16 Cards:

not 28nm
HBM.
Air cooling. (Except Dual card)
4000+ Shaders.

Haha good for you, noticed you played it safe with 'Not 28nm'

Well played.

 

[Boomstick777]

AMD: first products made using 14nm/16nm FinFET are on track

Interesting bit here >

AMD also said that the first system-on-chips that belong to the Skybridge product family of ARM and x86 chips will also be made using 20nm fabrication process. Finally, there is 20nm Xbox One SoC in plans as well as 20nm graphics processing units.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...ucts-made-using-14nm16nm-finfet-are-on-track/

 

[Boomstick777]

Not From Concentrate

 

[Boomstick777]

I hate how quiet amd are actually being, and even Nvidia really, are they both actually struggling? Sat in a horrible 28nm era that they both can't get out of or something, I mean yeah we hear roumers of what will be next 14nm or 16 and skipping 20 etc but surely by now. There should be something to actually keep us excited. We don't actually know anything yet. And I'm bored sat with my 7950 crossfire, but it's not worth the price for me to upgrade untill there is something new.

So cmon amd, get a hbm stacked 16gb 14nm dual gpu water aio cooled card out and then I won't mind spending 900 pounds!

Yep it's def a slow time in GPU's. Right on the edge of new stuff though. Q4 2015 through 2016 things should get very interesting.

I'm really liking how the tech is shrinking down along with lower power use. Would love to replace my desktop with a really small APU or all in one build. Thinking either Carrizo or something like Gigabyte Brix. Then in 2016 the newer tech in small form factor will probably rival 2014 higher end desktop stuff.

 

[Boomstick777]

AMD’s 28nm GPUs are based on GlobalFoundries’ 28 SHP Node – Alleges Italian Report

Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-gpus-28nm-shp-glofo/#ixzz3N2R7MHng

We recently published a piece telling you that AMD’s 20nm GPUs have been delayed and won’t be appearing in Early 2015 (will appear in later quarters). However the Italian publication Bitsandchips.it has revealed that AMD will be using the SHP (super high performance) 28 nanometer node from Global Foundries for the intermediary 28nm GPUs. But here is the golden question: which GPUs will AMD utilize this process for? The speculated ‘enhanced’ Hawaii’ or early variants of Caribbean Islands?

 

[Boomstick777]

Can't wait to pick up Boom's cheap 390X in the MM.

Haha, must admit this post raised a smile from me.

 

[Boomstick777]

AMD to Switch to GlobalFoundries' 28 nm SHP Node in 2015

Faced with continuous development roadblocks with TSMC, AMD is reportedly planning to switch to the 28 nm SHP process of GlobalFoundries, to build GPUs in 2015. The 28 nm SHP (super high-performance) node will allow the company to lower voltages, giving it greater room to increase clock speeds of its upcoming GPUs. AMD's GPUs in 2015 could be based on its latest Graphics CoreNext 1.2 architecture, and AMD needs every means to minimize voltages, and crank up clock speeds.

http://www.techpowerup.com/208431/amd-to-switch-to-globalfoundries-28-nm-shp-node-in-2015.html

 

[Boomstick777]

More info here...

28nm SHP is lower power, higher performance and higher density than TSMC's 28nm

So AMD can pack in more transistors, run at higher frequencies with no increase in power consumption, or possibly a reduction.

They will also be using 20nm SHP, possibly for the high end GPU's





http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...balfoundries-shp-process-technology-for-gpus/

Nice find there Humbug, whatever node it's on I hope it comes sooner rather than later. Nvidfia are still killing it in sales, so many people now have 970/980. AMD need to respond with something new. If it's faster than 980 and power consumption isn't to bad I'll grab one at launch. Biggest thing I wish AMD to address is IDLE power consumption with multiscreens, it's so high VS Nvidia's. LTMatt I hope you can get started in this so I can come back to AMD

 

[Boomstick777]

Never had a single issue with any drivers, be it Nvidia or AMD within the last 6 years. Too many are far to quick to blame AMD for what potentially could be other sytem related issues.

+1

AMD / Nvidia drivers have been solid for me for years.

The only actual issue I have with AMD cards is the high multiscreen IDLE power consumption / heat. My 290X ran 2 screens at IDLE (under water) what my 980 runs under load (under water). If this can be addressed I will def move back to AMD on the next lot of cards. Single screen wasn't an issue just with multi, now I'm using 1440P + 1080P, I will stick with Nvidia until it's sorted.

Performance wise, AMD are still best bang for buck overall. Driver wise AMD are solid and have been for a long time imho.

 

[Boomstick777]

Overall power efficiency does matter but its not so much that.

Maxwell has an intelligent power switching system, if it doesn't need to run at full power it wont where as AMD's current GPU's pull all the power that's available just because its there.

Its like the difference between a car engine with an old fashioned carburetor and a modern computer controlled fuel injection system.

AMD do have to implement a similar system, power draw is the big issue of today, if AMD are always 30 or 40% behind on efficiency they will never have a sustainable market share, they will not be able to sell enough units to fund R&D.

20 to 30% of the market at low margins is not sustainable, if AMD can't implement a similar power switch system to Maxwell by early this year they will not have the revenue to continue development, which means they will fall further and further behind and become irrelevant in the GPU market pretty fast.

I'm sure I read that AMD are working on a driver solution for more power efficiency with current cards. No doubt newer cards will have better power efficiency baked in. Plus a die shrink and eventual HBM will reduce power consumption further. I think enthusiasts still prefer performance VS power consumption, just that right now Nvidia have both.

We still haven't seen AMD's new stuff yet though. I have a feeling once we do it will be back per the norm with each camp trading blows etc. AMD should get a move on though, Maxwell is really popular...

 

[Boomstick777]

Hoping for more than 4GB tbh, will grab this if AMD can fix IDLE power use / temps for multi screen setup. Looks like a monster on paper, although this spec could be totally wrong

 

[Boomstick777]

But I hope its true, because I cant wait for a absolute beast from amd!

+1

 

[Boomstick777]

AMD's new cards won't be cheap if they beat the 970/980 comfortably. The 7950/7970 weren't cheap at launch, the 290/290X weren't cheap at launch. No reason for the 390/390X to be cheap either.