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Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

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humbug said:
It depends, with a slightly lower clock rate (918Mhz) than the 280 (933Mhz) and a 256Bit Bus Tonga (285) performance is from the same as the 280 and upto half way between the 280X and 290.

With a 1000Mhz clock and 384Bit bus it might sit around the 290.

It will be a total fail if they do that, the 290 is already a pretty efficient GPU at 230/240 Watts, the same as a 7970 GE.

Tonga will only take about 20 Watts off the 290, 10%, and with less V-Ram, 3GB.

Tonga is an utter fail, no one buys them as the 280/X is just plain better value with similar performance and more V-Ram.

The only reason Tonga exists on the retail market is because they are Apple Salvage parts that didn't make the grade.

I doubt it. :)

Maybe the 370X
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Agree with this, the 285 is priced to close to 280X / 290 to even bother with. With AMD's cards it's pretty hard to look past the 290 right now, price VS performance it's good value.

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I'm sure the 390 / 390X will be decent cards and pricey to start with, but it's always like this, early adopters pay more. I'm looking for a 20% improvement from a GTX 980 (From either new AMD or Nvidia cards) to bother upgrading soon, otherwise I will wait it out until later in the year, it's possible we will see something better again in Q4.
 
humbug said:
Thats very nice, but what worries me a little is this line.



That reads a bit like "2015 is a year to talk about whats coming, release the products some time late down the line, when NV Volta is just around the corner, soon after the fun game of playing catchup starts again"
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Yeah it's like we've said before, AMD have great vision / products but timing is also important. If they come to late Nvidia would have saturated the market with Maxwell and already taken all that market share / profit and then Nvidia moving onto even better stuff. Although if AMD's new arch cards are a big leap they might be able to compete with what comes after 970 / 980..

Have a feeling it's going to be a late summer release for AMD's new arch stuff, maybe some kind of Hawaii refresh before then to take on 970 / 980..

Be good to see something new soon, even if it is just a refresh..
 
For those that enjoy a bit of speculation,

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Radeon Rx 300: Bermuda, Fiji, Grenada, Tonga and Trinidad

3DCenter has some new information about potential codenames for Radeon 300 series. The information is partially based on rumors and earlier speculation, but also on recent update from undisclosed manufacturer. This is actually the first time we learn about Grenada, so I believe it’s worth taking a look.

Below is a list of new graphics cards. These are potential codenames and configuration for Radeon Rx 300 series.
The information is gathered from various sources, including 3DCenter, VR-Zone and ours.
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http://videocardz.com/54858/amd-rad...tion-395x2-bermuda-390x-fiji-and-380x-grenada
 
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Gregster said:
Out of interest, who would be happy to buy a 390X with 4GB memory?
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It's got to be a decent amount of vram for me, good core performance and the memory to back it up. Maybe they are thinking tiled resources etc will alleviate memory causing stutters fps drops etc..

A few months back I thought 4GB would be enough, but now I understand how the memory allocation works and we've seen games like Shadow of Mordor / Wolfenstein running so much better with the extra vram. Games are only going to get more demanding.

Anyone on 1440P / 4K should really be looking at cards with more than 4GB. Maybe we will see an 8GB version of this and maybe even 8GB 980. There is definitely a market there..

Either way I think I'm going to be waiting a long long time for my next upgrade.. This 290X 8GB might be a keeper for a while.. The original Titan / Titan Black also have longer legs than the other Nvidia cards at higher res imho. Yes the 980 has higher peak FPS but with the extra vram you don't get the drops / stutters.
 
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Yup, Shadow of Mordor runs a lot smoother on 290X 8GB VS our GTX 980. The 980 gets higher peak FPS but gets drops and stutters. Clocked SOM using over 6GB @ 1440P. Wolfenstein is the same smoother on 290X 8GB, higher peak FPS On 980 but better experience on 290X 8GB without drops and stutters.

A 8GB GTX 980 would be a nice option, as long as the vram wasn't gimped and all 8GB was accessible at the same speed..

Impatiently waiting for a 3XX series card with 8GB...
 
Dicehunter said:
So has AMD actually released any real info or is it the usual lies and BS made up by forum dwellers with too much time on their hands and photoshop ?
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You just described the whole internet..

Orangey said:
When was the last time AMD released ANY info before the actual launch?

It could end up with a completely different nomenclature, tech, cooler etc etc
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thisiswar88 said:
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/76685-sapphire-radeon-r9-290x-vapor-x-8gb/?page=9

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/76685-sapphire-radeon-r9-290x-vapor-x-8gb/?page=9

according to these benchmarks the 4gb 980 runs better than the 8gb 290x in all games.
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That's at 1080P, if you look at the 4K results on the same page the 290X 8GB wins in min and max FPS against the 980, I wasn't referring to peak FPS anyway but the 290X does pull ahead at higher res there.

What I was originally referring to was less / drops stutters with more vram. The 980 generally does get higher peak FPS than the 290X / Titan Black etc, but from my own experience, games that need a lot of vram Shadow of Mordor / Wolfenstein run much better for me, smoother / no stutter on the 290X 8GB. I game @ 1440P with 290X 8GB. My boys love the 980, they game at 1080P.

You can see how much the extra memory buffer helps performance. Playing the game with both the 290X 8GB and GTX 980, the 290X 8GB does give noticeable better game experience, smooth etc. As games are only going to get more demanding, the 290X 8GB makes a lot of sense, especially at it's current price point. I'm going to hold out for another 8GB card before upgrading, unless DX12 really does find a way to remove the limitation with tiled resources or something. Tbh though I'll just wait for 390X 8GB, or if I absolutely must an 8GB GM200 (I really don't want to have to go to the dark side :p)

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thisiswar88 said:
So do you think I should cancel getting the 980 and get something else? I mean I can pick anything in the 430 price range.

You've also got to think about the amount of games using Nvidias features and amd gpus are suffering because of it. Nvidia hold a lot of the market and amd are still in big debt

I for one are pi**ed at nvidia over the 970 and 960.
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If you game at 1080P the 980 is still the card to get, it's fast cool and quiet.

If you're at 1440P or 4K the choice becomes harder imho, a 290X 8GB is £300 the GTX 980 is £450. That's a big difference in price and not a big difference in performance at higher resolution. Especially when you consider that the 8GB really does pay off in some of the newer games.

1080P ~ GTX 980
1440P ~ 290X 8GB / GTX 980
4K ~ 290X 8GB
 
thisiswar88 said:
I game at 1080p but like I said previously I have seen games like mordor, cod aw hit 5500mb on my old 6gb 780 but this r9 280 3gb's vram is nearly max's out and doesn't affect performance. So its kinda hard to judge how much you need.
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If you have the funds and are planning on sticking with the 1080P for a while you can't go wrong with the GTX 980. It's very fast at 1080P, runs everything with ease. No idea how it will handle future games, but I imagine it will be well optimized at 1080P for the next couple of years until Pascal launches, by then GDDR5 will be old hat, and we will all be using stacked memory GPU's anyway :p


Yeah I would say go with a 980 and enjoy it. Keep it until Pascal / AMD alternative and then step up to a higher resolution / screen if you fancy it.

I'm using 32" 1440P screen and the difference it makes is night / day. Because I am at this res already I'll just stick with the higher vram cards..

The option is if you can wait until AMD launch the 3XX series and see what they are like.. Might effect prices on current stuff as well..
 
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No point using cutting edge, likely expensive to implement HBM on lower end cards tbh. I would expect it only on 390 / 390X to begin with. As things get cheaper we will likely see a new top to bottom stack. I'm just hoping for a more than 4GB HBM option. I would happily pay high price for that.
 
Mal X said:
The high-performance Radeon R9 380/380X will be powered by the code-named “Grenada” graphics chip that will be a revamped version of the “Hawaii” GPU. The novelty will sport 2816 stream processors, 512-bit GDDR5 memory bus and will offer performance comparable to that of the Radeon R9 290/290X. It is unclear whether the chip will feature any architectural improvements over existing GPUs.

so the new 380X looks like a bore fest, with the 390X not that exciting either, so it looks like i'll be sticking with Nvidia.....this is a big disappointment........if true !

with the 970 no where near the dreaded 3.5 RAM limit on 1080p, i'm bloody glad i've kept mine
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Hmm, so you're happy with the 970.. 3.5GB + 0.5GB, but the idea of a 4GB HBM graphics card with around the 3 times the bandwidth and 4000+ cores isn't that exciting, and the 970 is... You have a weird logic their mate tbh.

These cards will no doubt be awesome as will GM200. I only wish they would all get released sooner !
 
RavenXXX2 said:
**** the power consumption and heat, as long as it curb stomps 980 all will be good.
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I see they also mention that other vendors will have their own 'air cooler' variants. I said this before that the AIO is likely just for AMD's own reference design, as the last ref card was so badly lambasted.

For the performance VS it's power consumption it's actually more efficient than the 980 as well. 8 Tflops @ 300w is epic !
 
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