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hornetstinger · 20 Jun 2024 at 08:19

JasonM said:
Apologies to the mods if not the thread to ask. But anyone here at the North West Audio show this weekend?

North West – Audio Show

audioshow.co.uk

yeah I'll be going.

FYI for those that haven't been before it's mostly stereo. Perlisten I think were the only ones that had a cinema system in, with TV, subwoofer etc.

JasonM · 20 Jun 2024 at 08:21

hornetstinger said:
yeah I'll be going.

FYI for those that haven't been before it's mostly stereo. Perlisten I think were the only ones that had a cinema system in, with TV, subwoofer etc.

Yes I remember Perlisten's setup, it was in one of the small hotel rooms, the room was to small for the gear they had setup.

hornetstinger · 20 Jun 2024 at 10:12

JasonM said:
Yes I remember Perlisten's setup, it was in one of the small hotel rooms, the room was to small for the gear they had setup.

The Dali room was pretty bad, speakers too big for the room, was shaking the walls, boomy.

I liked the small ATC, and the actives KII towers (£30,000)

JasonM · 20 Jun 2024 at 19:10

hornetstinger said:
The Dali room was pretty bad, speakers too big for the room, was shaking the walls, boomy.

I liked the small ATC, and the actives KII towers (£30,000)

I found some of the best stereo setups are in the hotel rooms, from the independents and bespoke speaker manufacturers. The reason I purchased the Yamaha SACD player was an independent was using one to demo is custom speakers and I liked the sound.

Chord I think is there again this year, I mean this sincerely but if there doing the power conditioning/ cables testing demo it's worth sitting in on. I don't own any Chord products mine are Russ Andrews and a little audio quest and ifi, but the Chord demo is doing same sort of stuff. You can watch them switching products out and you will hear the sound improvements.

mid_gen · 20 Jun 2024 at 20:40

JasonM said:
You can watch them switching products out and you will hear the sound improvements.

Well, if the demos were blind it could get pretty embarrassing I suppose.

Flor_Fina · 21 Jun 2024 at 15:45

Any 2.5mm 99% ofc copper cables will do the same job as some 10k nonsense from Chord and the like.

JasonM · 21 Jun 2024 at 23:21

mid_gen said:
Well, if the demos were blind it could get pretty embarrassing I suppose.

Last years Chord demo the improvements were pretty obvious. One thing with the North West Audio show, and Chord even admitted, the mains is very contaminated compared to a home environment, so the mains conditioning tests really stand out. It's also why exhibitors they ALL run mains conditioners of various types, this includes even the small independents that are often only selling speakers.

That said if people wish to think it's all snake oil then that's their choice.

Flor_Fina · 22 Jun 2024 at 00:34

Science trumps audiophile nonsense I'm afraid.

JasonM · 22 Jun 2024 at 00:40

Flor_Fina said:
Science trumps audiophile nonsense I'm afraid.

DC on the mains?

kitfit1 · 22 Jun 2024 at 02:24

Flor_Fina said:
Any 2.5mm 99% ofc copper cables will do the same job as some 10k nonsense from Chord and the like.

So, what 10k cables have you listened to in order to come to this conclusion ?

kitfit1 · 22 Jun 2024 at 02:31

JasonM said:
Last years Chord demo the improvements were pretty obvious. One thing with the North West Audio show, and Chord even admitted, the mains is very contaminated compared to a home environment, so the mains conditioning tests really stand out. It's also why exhibitors they ALL run mains conditioners of various types, this includes even the small independents that are often only selling speakers.

That said if people wish to think it's all snake oil then that's their choice.

If it's known that the mains is contaminated at the North West Audio Show, i'm surprised that the exhibitors don't just each bring a balanced power supply with them.
That way they wouldn't need mains conditioners of any type. Perhaps there is more scope to make money out of selling conditioners ?

JasonM · 22 Jun 2024 at 04:03

kitfit1 said:
If it's known that the mains is contaminated at the North West Audio Show, i'm surprised that the exhibitors don't just each bring a balanced power supply with them.
That way they wouldn't need mains conditioners of any type. Perhaps there is more scope to make money out of selling conditioners ?

Balanced mains units have to be setup for the mains, and they don't have much time to set gear up before the show, but you make a good point. Often it's the second day (Sunday) where the systems sound best.

hornetstinger · 22 Jun 2024 at 07:22

Cranage meet today. not nice weather...typical it was great yesterday.

hornetstinger · 23 Jun 2024 at 09:14

So many snake oil companies. Shouldn't be allowed, why aren't they classed as scammers?

Just listening to the utter BS of these conmen...jitter on ethernet? ROFL

hornetstinger · 23 Jun 2024 at 10:08

Had a look at the room with records, things like this wth

Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark – MoFi 180g 45RPM SuperVinyl 2LP Box Set

Available to Pre-Order Ultradisc One-Step Box Set Of Lush 1974 Album Plays With Arresting Detail, Clarity, And Openness Mastering Source to Be Determined Closer to Production Date; Specifics Will Be Posted Here When Authenticated Court and Spark, the most commercially successful album of Joni...

www.thevinyladventure.com

"source is 16 bit 44.1khz CD"

kitfit1 · 23 Jun 2024 at 21:44

So @JasonM and @hornetstinger. Come on tell us what you discovered when at the show.

hornetstinger · 23 Jun 2024 at 21:47

kitfit1 said:
So @JasonM and @hornetstinger. Come on tell us what you discovered when at the show.

Nothing too much interesting really, didn't seem to have as many open rooms as last year.

Only thing I'm interested in is Wiim Ultra. One dealer had Pro and Pro Plus, but no Ultra.

JasonM · 23 Jun 2024 at 22:03

kitfit1 said:
So @JasonM and @hornetstinger. Come on tell us what you discovered when at the show.

I've purchased another turntable, I was 95% sure on what I was buying but wanted to talk to manufactures stand first. When the turntable arrives will post pictures of it!

hornetstinger · 24 Jun 2024 at 09:49

one of the scam companies at north west show tried to use "expectation bias" method against me.

Freakbro · 29 Jun 2024 at 10:31

Recently got the upgrade itch with my amp, which was the Rega Elicit-R, so after doing some research, I demoed the next model up, the Rega Aethos.

Well, as much as I loved the Elicit, the difference was just night and day! Especially with the speakers, Kef R3's, being quite difficult to drive.

My main complaint before, was that though it had fantastic detail, it could be quite clinical at times and not always engaging.

That's all gone now, the Aethos grips the Kefs so much more, they have burst into life and sing beautifully now with warmth, scale, soundstage and pure musicality in abundance.

I'm quite new to this level of hi-fi journey, but am more than happy with the destination I've ended up!.......(for the moment

)

I think my only change I'm looking at now is a 2nd sub (not 4!

) as it's an AVR setup as well, but in a small room I'm going to be very limited to where I can place it, which would most likely by at the front, as is the other one, on the opposite side.