Potentially kicking off in Russia

Surely the amount of dead and the amount of damage caused after the launch of just one nuke by Russia, Chaina and USA'd convince Biden, Jinping and Putin of what idiots they're being (and that'sd after the massive cost of lives in conventional warfare) and even when they do resort to nuclear exchange, neither side'll have much of a Taiwan, South China Sea or Crimea left to rule will they?
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57662956

I hope that makes it clear that Defender did enter Crimean territorial waters which are disputed and Russia believes it to be theirs. This is not a safe passage route or anything like that, they point blank entered territorial waters.

What was it doing there in the first place and under whose orders?
Biden, Jinping and Putin tell us they don't want a war. If So, why are they amassing their forces and taunting eahother by carrying out 'excercises?'
 
Surely the amount of dead and the amount of damage caused after the launch of just one nuke by Russia, Chaina and USA'd convince Biden, Jinping and Putin of what idiots they're being (and that'sd after the massive cost of lives in conventional warfare) and even when they do resort to nuclear exchange, neither side'll have much of a Taiwan, South China Sea or Crimea left to rule will they?

I doubt they think it will ever escalate that far.

If we do see nuclear weapons used again the most likely scenarios are a misguided show of force by North Korea (unlikely but a bit more in the realms of possibility than most if not all other scenarios) or a very small chance of use as a defensive deterrent in the South China Seas if things warmed up should one side or another be at risk of being overwhelmed.
 
What was it doing there in the first place and under whose orders?
Biden, Jinping and Putin tell us they don't want a war. If So, why are they amassing their forces and taunting eahother by carrying out 'excercises?'
Because the annexing of an entire state isn't exercising.
 
Surely the amount of dead and the amount of damage caused after the launch of just one nuke by Russia, Chaina and USA'd convince Biden, Jinping and Putin of what idiots they're being (and that'sd after the massive cost of lives in conventional warfare) and even when they do resort to nuclear exchange, neither side'll have much of a Taiwan, South China Sea or Crimea left to rule will they?
This is exactly what the MAD defence strategy is about (Mutually Assured Destruction). When people say our nukes are a waste of money because we will never use them they are missing the point - they are in use every minute of every day.
 
we will never use them
Doesn't look that way the way Jinping, Biden and Putin're going if they don't STFU, put their genitalia away, call their generals to heel and put their military toys away
Even the Chihuahua/French bulldog crossbreed two doorsaway from my place doesn't have as much as a big mouth as Biden, Putin and Jinping and isn't as annoying.
 
I doubt they think it will ever escalate that far.

If we do see nuclear weapons used again the most likely scenarios are a misguided show of force by North Korea (unlikely but a bit more in the realms of possibility than most if not all other scenarios) or a very small chance of use as a defensive deterrent in the South China Seas if things warmed up should one side or another be at risk of being overwhelmed.

The way I see it, the safest way to bring down the regimes is to turn members of the inner cicle against eachother (if the rumours of a powerstruggle within the regime's inner circle're true) ansd with the rival factions at eachothers' throats, the regime'll implode on itself.
 
I hope that makes it clear that Defender did enter Crimean territorial waters which are disputed and Russia believes it to be theirs. This is not a safe passage route or anything like that, they point blank entered territorial waters.
one countries word vs a lot of others who disagree...

if we disagree then we ignore putin.. it's simple.

otherwise your validate his claim
 
This is exactly what the MAD defence strategy is about (Mutually Assured Destruction). When people say our nukes are a waste of money because we will never use them they are missing the point - they are in use every minute of every day.

It is needed and MAD is one aspect, but it's also empowering.. Putin said at interview "There would be no WW3 even if we sank the British Destroyer" which is absolutely true..

It's all nonsense and yes, we should send destroyers through, Putin is a dictator that has shown he will stoop as low as needed to cling on to power and there are a few good reasons to do this.. Remember, he pokes everyone first.. if you don't poke back, that only fuels his behaviour..
 
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It is needed and MAD is one aspect, but it's also empowering.. Putin said at interview "There would be no WW3 even if we sank the British Destroyer" which is absolutely true..

It's all nonsense and yes, we should send destroyers through, Putin is a dictator that has shown he will stoop as low as needed to cling on to power and there are a few good reasons to do this.. Remember, he pokes everyone first.. if you don't poke back, that only fuels his behaviour..

I'd solve the China/Russia/USA situation by getting Biden, Putin and Jinping sat together at a table ina room and scream in their faces STFU, THE THREE OF YOU!! YOU'RE AS BAD AND AS GUILTY AS EACHOTHER AND NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR GENITALIA WAVING CONTEST AND WE'RE ALL SICK OF HEARING YOUR BIG ANNOYING MOUTHS.

OR:-
give the three of them two fully loaded sem-autmatic pistoms, make them stand in a triangle with the guns pointing at eachother and tell them, you three want a stand off, you've got one. Now the three of you can either put your guns down and back off or you can kill eachother and nobody wins.
But with them being presidents, they'll have body doubles to take their places while the real Biden, Putin and Jinping cower in some bunker somewhere and neither of them can afford to back down, put their military toys away and call their generals to heel as neither of them can afford to look weak on te world stage. They're like rival gangsters squaring up to each other in front of their gangs and neither of them can afford to back down or drunken thugs in pubs squaring up to eachother and can't back down in front of their mates or girlfriends
 
Going by your terminology it looks like China has ordered a penis extension

China is building more than 100 missile silos in the desert, according to an analysis of satellite photos, which researchers say signals a possible expansion of the country’s nuclear capabilities.

Analysts warned the expansion signified an “alarming development” but also urged caution against “worst-case thinking”, noting tension between major nuclear powers over disarmament.

The research, first reported by the Washington Post on Thursday, identified the construction of at least 119 silos, likely to hold intercontinental ballistic missiles, have been identified in the desert of Gansu province.

The researchers, from the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies, made the discovery through an analysis of satellite photos provided by commercial company, Planet.

Spread across more than 700 sq miles, the site near Yumen includes the construction of underground bunkers, which may function as launch centres, cable trenches, roads and a small military base, one of the researchers, the US nuclear expert Jeffrey Lewis, said.

Features of the layout mirrored existing nuclear ballistic missile launch sites in Inner Mongolia, suggesting China has built or is building at least 145 in total.

“We believe China is expanding its nuclear forces in part to maintain a deterrent that can survive a US first strike in sufficient numbers to defeat US missile defences,” Lewis told the Washington Post.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/01/china-building-missile-silos-nuclear

Guess that is their backup plan if smashing heads against a steel wall doesn't work
 
I'd solve the China/Russia/USA situation by getting Biden, Putin and Jinping sat together at a table ina room and scream in their faces STFU, THE THREE OF YOU!! YOU'RE AS BAD AND AS GUILTY AS EACHOTHER AND NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR GENITALIA WAVING CONTEST AND WE'RE ALL SICK OF HEARING YOUR BIG ANNOYING MOUTHS.

OR:-
give the three of them two fully loaded sem-autmatic pistoms, make them stand in a triangle with the guns pointing at eachother and tell them, you three want a stand off, you've got one. Now the three of you can either put your guns down and back off or you can kill eachother and nobody wins.
But with them being presidents, they'll have body doubles to take their places while the real Biden, Putin and Jinping cower in some bunker somewhere and neither of them can afford to back down, put their military toys away and call their generals to heel as neither of them can afford to look weak on te world stage. They're like rival gangsters squaring up to each other in front of their gangs and neither of them can afford to back down or drunken thugs in pubs squaring up to eachother and can't back down in front of their mates or girlfriends

:) I like your thinking.

I'm not sure it applies in this case, with Crimea it's more Putin vs Western Europe?, I guess we could get all the Western European leaders to first have a fight to the death, then the winner takes on Putin?

And what are the rules of engagement? Jousting tournament and combatants must be bare chested and riding a bear? :)
 
And what are the rules of engagement? Jousting tournament and combatants must be bare chested and riding a bear? :)

Easy, put the three of them in a Mexican standoff style confrontation and not let them leave until one or all of them realise tha none of them can win and they put their guns down and back off. But they daren't becuase they know how they'll look if they backed down and neither of them can afford to do that can they?
 
Easy, put the three of them in a Mexican standoff style confrontation and not let them leave until one or all of them realise tha none of them can win and they put their guns down and back off. But they daren't becuase they know how they'll look if they backed down and neither of them can afford to do that can they?

And then what? they'd just be replaced by someone similar or worse.
 
U.K. Russia Warship Shots in Crimea Show Limits of Putin-Johnson Summit - Bloomberg

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Thats my first and last free article apparently, msg me if you cant read it.
 
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