Power to Mick Lynch

[Freakbro]

If rail workers get 11%, then every other public sector is going to expect the same.

They are asking for 7% aren't they? ie: less than inflation

Then so are all private sector workers.

Who on average are already getting more than that at 8%, the public sector are currently getting 1.5% on avg

Then rent, mortgages, prices go up another 11%.

Herp! Costs don't go up 1-1 with wages!

Then we just ensure that inflation is going to be 11% this year, and we're all back where we started.

It's going to be 11% anyway, hence the need for workers to have pay rises...

 

[Freakbro]

Chris is a simple mechanic, a spanner twirler. A good one, but one that knows his social place and class status, and doesn't try and pretend otherwise.

See I actually pay attention to the people I talk to on here

Oh no, he doesn't think that. From his posting he definitely knows he's one of the proletariat, just one of those forelock-tugging deferential to the aristocrat types, he knows his place!

 

[Hagar]

Power to lynch Mick!

 

[Dirk Diggler]

If rail workers get 11%, then every other public sector is going to expect the same. Then so are all private sector workers. Then rent, mortgages, prices go up another 11%. Then we just ensure that inflation is going to be 11% this year, and we're all back where we started.

These things are not directly proportional to each other. Your mortgage isn't dictated by how much money your earn.

Wow, this thread is something else.

 

[Chris Wilson]

See I actually pay attention to the people I talk to on here

<LOL> You do indeed and fair play to you. A modest amount of forelock tugging has held me in good stead and earned me a small collection of very useful "toff" contacts, it's not to be sneezed at

 

[Hawk Tuah]

Herp! Costs don't go up 1-1 with wages!

For an individual, no. But across the board - of course they do. Where do you think money comes from, and represents?

 

[Hawk Tuah]

These things are not directly proportional to each other. Your mortgage isn't dictated by how much money your earn.

Wow, this thread is something else.

Mortgage rates aren't affected by inflation?

 

[robfosters]

I don’t think anyone actually eats cooked gammon any more my dude.

what is this madness!?!

 

[Dirk Diggler]

Mortgage rates aren't affected by inflation?

That's not what I said.

 

[Freakbro]

For an individual, no. But across the board - of course they do. Where do you think money comes from, and represents?

Except maybe for some outliers, a company's wages only constitute a % of the cost of the service/product, so a 10% wage increase wouldn't see a 10% increase in the corresponding service/product...ie: it's not a 1-1

 

[Hawk Tuah]

That's not what I said.

Then what was your point? It's hard to make out.

 

[Hawk Tuah]

Except maybe for some outliers, a company's wages only constitute a % of the cost of the service/product, so a 10% wage increase wouldn't see a 10% increase in the corresponding service/product...ie: it's not a 1-1

Yes, but if all their suppliers also put up their wages, then the costs to their business will increase accordingly.

If the Government doesn't fight this, we'll be heading towards spiralling inflation. And if you think that's going to benefit anyone, you've missed some history lessons.

 

[Slam62]

Except maybe for some outliers, a company's wages only constitute a % of the cost of the service/product, so a 10% wage increase wouldn't see a 10% increase in the corresponding service/product...ie: it's not a 1-1

They are something they can control though, however wages are a big part of a company's costs.

 

[cheesyboy]

Yes, but if all their suppliers also put up their wages, then the costs to their business will increase accordingly.

If the Government doesn't fight this, we'll be heading towards spiralling inflation. And if you think that's going to benefit anyone, you've missed some history lessons.

Inflation is already the highest it's been for 40 years. We're not blaming that on wages though.

 

[Freakbro]

Yes, but if all their suppliers also put up their wages, then the costs to their business will increase accordingly.

Still not a 1-1 though - and also, a company has the choice to reduce their profit margin and absorb an element of cost, reduce other costs or become more efficient - which they do all of.

If the Government doesn't fight this, we'll be heading towards spiralling inflation.

So it's only the public sector who shouldn't get the rises then? As I pointed out the private sector are already getting them.

And if you think that's going to benefit anyone, you've missed some history lessons.

There's a lot more going on driving inflation than wage side increases.

 

[Slam62]

Yes, but if all their suppliers also put up their wages, then the costs to their business will increase accordingly.

If the Government doesn't fight this, we'll be heading towards spiralling inflation. And if you think that's going to benefit anyone, you've missed some history lessons.

This whole thing is getting a bit out of hand tbh, it's not right that rail workers get a big pay rise when health workers don't.
You especially shouldn't give pay rises to bullies.

 

[cheesyboy]

This whole thing is getting a bit out of hand tbh, it's not right that rail workers get a big pay rise when health workers don't.
You especially shouldn't give pay rises to bullies.

The answer is to pay health workers more.

They were bullied by a government who know they aren't allowed to strike, hence low pay rise.

Didn't help that Labour were calling for a lower pay increase than the Tories ended up giving them. Pointless opposition.

 

[Freakbro]

it's not right that rail workers get a big pay rise when health workers don't.

The answer to that then is to give the health workers a big rise too

 

[Slam62]

The answer is to pay health workers more.

They were bullied by a government who know they aren't allowed to strike, hence low pay rise.

Didn't help that Labour were calling for a lower pay increase than the Tories ended up giving them. Pointless opposition.

Yeah pay everyone more,

 

[Freakbro]

Yeah pay everyone more,

That's what Brexit promised!