Power to Mick Lynch

Dirk Diggler said:
I wonder if the media will try to get us hating on these guys, I mean think of the inflationary effect this additional funding would cause. Obviously the 15% pay rise is cool when it's middle class occupations involved. Some nice comparisons with a plumber just to emphasise the support in case we were confused on which way to lean here...

BBC News - Barristers walk out of courts in strike over legal aid funding
www.bbc.co.uk

Barristers walk out of courts in strike over pay

Lawyers are urged to accept proposed fees' rise but there are concerns some will quit the profession.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Who are these lawyers defending? The plebs and immigrants? That'll be the decider as to which way it goes!
 
Jokester said:
I'm usually anti-union/anti-strike, but yes Mick Lynch has been subjected to absolutely shocking levels of media bias, the whole interview with Piers Morgan and the puppet avatar just sums up the state of the modern media and why the general public seem to now just treat it largely with contempt.

Everything is an attempt to shut Mick down from speaking about the actual issue and divert attention from that and the disparity between ordinary worker renumeration stagnating whilst company profits and upper management rewards have continued increasing.

Our MPs as well treat the public as if they are stupid (or perhaps our elected officials are actually just morons). I can't remember the MPs name on QT the other day, but she argued with Mick that the RMT had been given a guarantee that there would be no compulsory redundancies and Mick refuted this. She then pulls out the letter and reads from it, explicitly stating that no such guarantee could be given - and then continued to repeat that a guarantee had been given. Mental.
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That would be Rachel Maclean who doesn't seem the sharpest tool in the shed. Assume she was the only one they could wheel out as no one wanted to take Lynch on.
 
Dirk Diggler said:
It's the 15% wage increase that I'm especially liking. How on earth is that not being framed as a crash to the economy? :)
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I see what you mean — convenience? It certainly wouldn't be hypocrisy or double standards, would it? :p

To be honest, I don't think it takes much for the average Joe to hate on barristers anyway, so maybe that line of enquiry isn't required…
 
Dirk Diggler said:
It's the 15% wage increase that I'm especially liking. How on earth is that not being framed as a crash to the economy? :)
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Interesting to see how the media are covering it too, completely the opposite to those scumbag railway staff. Take note.

Barristers earn only £250 for a 13 hour day. Far more than I do but yet framed as being below minimum wage somehow.

15% is old news anyway, that was then now they want more apparently.
 
Doobedoo said:
Interesting to see how the media are covering it too, completely the opposite to those scumbag railway staff. Take note.

Barristers earn only £250 for a 13 hour day. Far more than I do but yet framed as being below minimum wage somehow.

15% is old news anyway, that was then now they want more apparently.
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IIRC the money barristers receive from legal aid doesn't just have to pay their wages, but various other things, as I understand it being a barrister is costly, requires a lot more training/experience than your normal highstreet solicitor, but under the Legal Aid system they are often expected to work for less than a newly qualified general solicitor. I've been hearing rumblings about how the number that will take on legal aid cases has been dropping, literally for years because for many such cases they barely break even.
 
I’ve got no problem with them getting a pay rise especially if it’s genuinely needed. I have a problem with how it’s being covered by the media and treated by the political class.

On one hand they argue that pay rises for the rail staff risk pushing up inflation, yet pensioners and barristers are somehow immune to that phenomena. They know they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. If they give rail staff what they want, teachers, nurses, doctors and many more over worked underpaid people in this country are going want there slice too.

The media really are a sham and it’s nothing new. Everything George Carlin and Noam Chomsky said way back when is absolutely relevant even more so today.
 
eddiemcgarrigle said:
The media decry any decent pay rise for the Public Sector as greedy yet ignore bosses of, for instance, BAE, getting upwards of 25%.
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Not sure what his pay has got to do with the public sector pay rises tbh. A better comparison would be the network rail boss and others of that ilk.
 
Dirk Diggler said:
It's the 15% wage increase that I'm especially liking. How on earth is that not being framed as a crash to the economy? :)
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It's being reported that this rise wouldn't take effect until the end of 2023 i.e. 18 months from now.

Works out about 6.5% for 2022 and a further 6.5% for 2023.

They won't be paid any increase for any backlogged cases regardless of how long they take to complete.
 
200sols said:
Not sure what his pay has got to do with the public sector pay rises tbh. A better comparison would be the network rail boss and others of that ilk.
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Politicians and the MSM have been calling on 'workers' to take tiny rises as it will apparently cause higher inflation. Nothing is said of the bosses who get huge pay rises. We didn't cause inflation, it happened due to political mismanagement. The Public Sector has been getting shafted since the 2008 crash, something else we didn't cause. I work in the Public Sector and haven't seen a rise of more than 1.5% since then.
 
Are Barristers similar to lawyers, some of those(my wife for one) started on a pretty low wage when she was newly qualified but now is on a pretty decent wage after gaining experience.
 
chroniclard said:
Are Barristers similar to lawyers, some of those(my wife for one) started on a pretty low wage when she was newly qualified but now is on a pretty decent wage after gaining experience.
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Depends on the situation the lawyer starts in.

Those who do vast majority legal aid work will earn little. Some criminal law places have opportunities to earn private fees or different revenue sources.

Generally if in legal aid places you won’t be earning big bucks for 12+ years post qualification and even then there’s a degree of luck involved as your career may not take off beyond being a jobbing barrister.
 
At the end of the day you can't really blame workers, especially those at the lower end (~£20k), for asking for a pay rise that matches inflation. We've seen many lower paid workers taking home 1-2% pay rises for years now to the point where many relatively skillled jobs now pay near enough minimum wage.

Despite the narrative in the media I think there's an widespread desire for action in many sectors and this RMT strike is far from the end of it.
 
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doodah said:
That would be Rachel Maclean who doesn't seem the sharpest tool in the shed. Assume she was the only one they could wheel out as no one wanted to take Lynch on.
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Everything the Tories do is a political game.

Putting a woman up against Lynch wasn't some random choice or voluntary, it's designed to make the opponent look bad by being mean for daring to criticise clearly delusional opinions or outright lies. There is also glass cliff whereby women are used to absorb blame (and deflect it with accusations of misogyny for any critics) for doing poorly when the wider leadership is the one at fault and just don't want to take responsibility for it or in this case look embarrassed going up against a genuinely formidable opponent that they cannot argue against.
 
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