Soldato
Looks like we're after Amorim, all the others touted as front runners have all said they're not interested.
Poll: Premier League Sack Race 2022/23
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Soldato
So basically he’s all that’s left
Caporegime
Carlo was crazy and left as soon as he could, maybe he was bored and wanted a challenge. Spurs have consistently been in the upper reaches of the PL and reached the latter stages of multiple tournaments. Comparing Villa to that is silly.
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Just look at the stadiums. Villa have a loyal fan base. Three decades ago is no different to 5 years ago. History is history. Form is in the present and not the past. There is no reason why Aston Villa cannot be higher than Spurs in 5 years time.
I wasn't comparing Villa to City and Newcastle in financial might. I was merely pointing out how quickly the tables can turn in football. Then again Villa are no paupers either and could quite easily get back up there with the right manager and focus in place. Also Conte took the Spurs job and they have only won 1 trophy in 20 years. The same with Carlo at Everton.
You say tables can turn quickly but then your example are two clubs that are owned by countries. Sure if a country buys Villa then maybe they will attract a huge name (and even then both your examples had to settle for smaller names for some time)
Caporegime
Villa's owners are the 6th richest in the league.
Caporegime
Irrelevant. It's how much you invest and your ambitions that matter, now how much money they have. Newcastle and City will spend infinite money to get where they want to be because that is why they were bought. Villa owners clearly don't have the same level of ambition.
Caporegime
You cannot compare them to City and Newcastle and I never was. Maybe using City was a poor example of a team that have changed in such a short period of time when I could have used Leicester City (current season excluded). I was actually comparing them Spurs as that is who Poch used to manage and he was a manager who rejected them. I was merely giving an argument why he was naive to reject that offer when it could potentially work out well for him.
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Caporegime
Adam you calling anyone naive is rich 
Caporegime
Adam you calling anyone naive is rich
You don't think Poch thinks a little bit too much of himself then? Taking a mid table team to top 4/6 is his level. Otherwise all the big clubs would have been in for him.
Caporegime
No, of course not. He will have his pick of clubs that are much bigger than Villa. Plenty of top managers take breaks until another big opportunity comes. Going from Spurs > PSG > Aston Villa is just a disaster, he's not doing that.
Caporegime
Both Mourinho and Ancelotti have both done it though.
Soldato
Poch or Tuchel were never going to go to Villa that’s a comeback type job for them after they’ve failed again at someone higher and they need to rebuild rep.
Talking about how big a club was 30 years ago you might as well talk about 300 years ago footballs changed that much in 30 years.
Villa are a bottom half of the table team and until someone proves otherwise by getting them higher that’s where the impression of them will be.
Talking about how big a club was 30 years ago you might as well talk about 300 years ago footballs changed that much in 30 years.
Villa are a bottom half of the table team and until someone proves otherwise by getting them higher that’s where the impression of them will be.
Soldato
Big Sam is available, you'll need his relegation battle experience.
Caporegime
Mourinho has gone to smaller clubs as his ability has decreased, it's not like he went Madrid > Villa > United is it? Ancelotti as already explained was a big surprised, a huge exception and one that he clearly rushed to get out of.
**** me people couldn't stop going on about how we were spending too much money and blowing our wage structure out the water for Gerrard and now we don't spend enough.
Football fans are ******* clueless
Caporegime
**** me people couldn't stop going on about how we were spending too much money and blowing our wage structure out the water for Gerrard and now we don't spend enough.
Football fans are ******* clueless
Do you think your club is ambitious as City/Newcastle and do you think your owners will invest the same amount?
Their investment so far suggests yes.
Caporegime
Ok well we'll see but I'd be shocked if they do. You spent almost nothing in the summer, that doesn't seem that ambitious to me.
We've spent the best part of £80m this year on top of offering wages in excess of double what most players were on under Smith. As I said, clueless.
Caporegime
And how does that compare to what Newcastle have spent? Your net spend over the last few years is almost nothing, that doesn't seem to be in the same realms of ambition or investing.