Prince Andrew not served papers as they were handed to his police security.

mrk said:
Anyone seen the new docu about all this?

https://www.itv.com/hub/ghislaine-prince-andrew-and-the-paedophile/10a1318a0001

Gonna watch tonight!

Heard about his "teddy bear collection" which was a bit weird lol. He had a laminated photo of them in arrangement in his room and if the maids did not put them back in that order he'd get verbally abusive.
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That's hilarious, obvs it's got no relevance to the allegations but it just comes across as being a bit weird, grown man with a teddy bear collection who has a tantrum if the maids mess with them...

IIRC the police officer who is revealing that stuff has been caught out with something criminal himself in the past? Could be mistaken? But generally, they're not supposed to speak about private stuff they saw during their work with the Royals.

I remember when one of the newspapers had someone get a job as a servant in the palace and they took photos of one of the apartments (Prince Edward's IIRC) what was surprising was that despite living in some grad palace the actual private apartment was fairly basic, obvs a good location(!) and some nice on site facilities access to a big shared garden, swimming pool at the palace but in terms of the interior, there are no doubt people of much more modest means living outside of London in similar sized flats/apartments.

There were also the stories a while ago about a bit of a feud between Prince Andrew and some of the police protection people, him yelling at them to stop walking on the gravel etc.. when patrolling the palace. I guess maybe this guy thinks it's time for revenge?
 
Jean-F said:
While your post makes perfect sense and would be difficult to dispute, I don’t find that someone collects Teddy bears weird in the slightest, but it’s the allegation that they all had to be in the correct position on the bed that blew my mind.
It may be complete and utter B.S., but that’s what will stick in people’s minds, and the media know it.
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Again I don't see a problem with that, I know a few people with collections and if one thing is out of place they're not happy.
 
Jean-F said:
Okay I’ll buy that, but I collect books and I don’t care where they go as long as I know where to find them, maybe I’m the crank!
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There are those that are bothered and those like me & you who aren't about collections.
A mate of mine has gone through 1 wife and 2 fiancees because of their disrespect for his absolutely huge Star Wars collection he has in 4 rooms of his rather large house.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Again I don't see a problem with that, I know a few people with collections and if one thing is out of place they're not happy.
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Them having to be in the correct position is not something I'd have an issue with, but "berating" or being abusive to staff if they're not is something I would have an issue with, especially if it's an honest mistake or the staff member is new/rushing to do other things as well.

It's rarely if ever ok to be abusive to employees.
 
Werewolf said:
Them having to be in the correct position is not something I'd have an issue with, but "berating" or being abusive to staff if they're not is something I would have an issue with, especially if it's an honest mistake or the staff member is new/rushing to do other things as well.

It's rarely if ever ok to be abusive to employees.
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I did say that in my first post:

"Perhaps a bit over the top if they weren't put back properly but lots of collectors are anal about their collections".
 
Some of you are clearly misunderstanding the bits earlier about his supposed teddy collection. Nothing wrong with having a collection as such, people collect all kinds of things both normal (watches) and abnormal (kids teddies) - What was a bit weird was it being claimed he gets verbally abusive to the maids if they didn't place them back in the exact positions on the bed like the laminated photo showed. Assuming that's true, I mean it's rather a fantastic claim to fabricate given all we know so far from Andrew, like his claim that he does not sweat so can't be guilty of some allegations.... On its own the teddy verbal abuse sounds unbelievable, but with everything else put into context it does paint a bigger picture.

That and his obvious body language and answers in the number of direct interviews he has been on which I'm sure you've all seen by now. That sort of behaviour and response to questioning isn't that of a rational man who simply likes to collect teddies (which is fine on its own...).

Sure we need more concrete evidence of those claims, but so far everything seen and heard doesn't sound that great ... The man's been stripped of his titles for crying out loud by the royal family, isn't that alone enough to raise eyebrows further?

Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer has said she will not be hiding the names of 8 John Does, I do wonder if Andrew is on that list once the names are released.
 
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SexyGreyFox said:
There are those that are bothered and those like me & you who aren't about collections.
A mate of mine has gone through 1 wife and 2 fiancees because of their disrespect for his absolutely huge Star Wars collection he has in 4 rooms of his rather large house.
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With the best will in the world Foxy, I’m amazed that three women spent more than a day each under the same roof as your mate if he was that much into Star Wars!
 
Jean-F said:
With the best will in the world Foxy, I’m amazed that three women spent more than a day each under the same roof as your mate if he was that much into Star Wars!
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Actually 3 rooms are for Star Wars and the other room is split between Bladerunner, ET, Jaws, Starsky & Hutch and a couple of others :)
Every week he has a delivery of something like a Vietnamese version of a C3PO toy :)
His last live in girlfriend actually put up with it but she left because of his uncontrollable snoring.
 
not sure why would anyone invest time watching a programme that was flagged up beforehand with an item on his teddy-bears - due diligence just another poor itv documentary/drivel,
life is too short - like watching Meghans full interview, or PA's Maitless interview (she lowered herself to Bashir's level, was that a career highlight ?).
 
mrk said:
Some of you are clearly misunderstanding the bits earlier about his supposed teddy collection. Nothing wrong with having a collection as such, people collect all kinds of things both normal (watches) and abnormal (kids teddies)
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Why do you say collecting watches is considered normal and collecting teddy bears abnormal?

On the basis of an investment, bears can go for as much, and in some cases more, than watches. Just as some people buy watches or books or paintings as an investment, the same may be said about bears but you consider the latter to be abnormal?

Is it as "abnormal" than adults with signed football tops on their walls?

Is it as "abnormal" as people who obsess over voltages or temps whilst overclocking their PC?
 
jpaul said:
not sure why would anyone invest time watching a programme that was flagged up beforehand with an item on his teddy-bears - due diligence just another poor itv documentary/drivel,
life is too short - like watching Meghans full interview, or PA's Maitless interview (she lowered herself to Bashir's level, was that a career highlight ?).
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I don’t recall watching Bashir interview Diana, but I vaguely recall something about him allegedly producing “forged bank statements” to Diana’s brother, what did Emily Maitlis do wrong when she interviewed the dumbest Prince in the land?
 
Jean-F said:
what did Emily Maitlis do wrong when she interviewed the dumbest Prince in the land?
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yes his advisors were a fool to let him participate - but an experienced interviewer with the scent of blood in face of someone unfamiliar with journalist techniques -
( crikey - the tories were bouycotting r4today because they were afraid of the journalists, and their dark techniques looking for sound bites )
it's a bit like hurting a defenceless animal - and should be held in comparison to Bashir and Meghan interview, also, exploitative/manipulative journalism.
 
Once again this month I'm reminded of what my late grandfather would say to clients expecting to be in court or interviewed by the old bill, and asked him what they should say. He always used to bang hist first on the table and tell them to say nothing or at worst as little as bloody possible :)
 
Chris Wilson said:
Once again this month I'm reminded of what my late grandfather would say to clients expecting to be in court or interviewed by the old bill, and asked him what they should say. He always used to bang hist first on the table and tell them to say nothing or at worst as little as bloody possible :)
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You reckon he wouldn't have advised them to do a recorded interview on their own :p

It's mind boggling that andrew is so stupid and full of himself that he thought doing a TV interview to overshare was a top plan.
 
Hotwired said:
You reckon he wouldn't have advised them to do a recorded interview on their own :p

It's mind boggling that andrew is so stupid and full of himself that he thought doing a TV interview to overshare was a top plan.
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One has to presume he was advised against it, but ignored his advisors and went ahead, unless his advisors disliked him to they extent they pushed him in front of the cameras and told him to just put plenty of antiperspirant on, and start quacking... ;)
 
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