OK, got a bit cocky after the (relative) success of my first wcool (in sig) so I thought I'd try something a bit more challenging, I also fancied dual core and seeing as I had some ddr2 sat around (yes the decision really was that arbitrary) and partly the price seeing as its a plaything I went for the intel 830 dual 3ghz. Thought I'd document this, started being a laugh but its got more and more complicated as time has gone by.. Final specs are: P4 830 dual 3ghz 1gb crucial ballistix ddr2 5400 200gb sata hdd xfx 6800 ultra pci-e asus p5ld2 vm mobo aspire xqpack case Swiftech 6000 cpu block swiftech 350 pump DD maze 4 gpu block black ice extreme 120.1 5.25 bayres I chose the aspire because of the all acrylic sides, also because it's small (perhaps too small by the looks of things??) I also think it looks pretty funky and again, it wasn't expensive, the mobo was pretty much a choice of 1 but I have asus in my main pc and it seems pretty solid, the 6800 ultra was the first card that came up in the mm that fitted the bill, I have a 2405fpw it'll have to drive so my options for gfx are a bit limited to high end stuff.. bummer eh! It begins.. cheers ocuk for making me daydream all day at work that aprticular day after the "there are boxes here, what have you bought now" text from my long suffering wife.