Ps3 is faster than any pc...

[stifler]

I'm clueless? lol

Seriously, what was the last good racing game that came to PC and tell me it wasn't GRID. When did that come out? June 2008? Dude, it's nearly 2010 lol
Or it could be DiRT but guess what, both GRID and DiRT are console ports haha

There just aren't any games for the PC anymore unless they are RTS or MMORPGs.

Face it, what good games (that are better than console version) came out to PC this year that isn't a RTS or MMORPG?

I'll start of a list for Console gaming > PC gaming

- Killzone 2
- FIFA 10
- Forza 3
- Final Fantasy XIII
- Assassins Creed 2 (PC Gamers will have to wait months lol)
- Halo 3: ODST
- Uncharted 2
- inFamous
- Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City

try getting them for the PC

Dirt 2 a console port? i didn't know consoles were capable of dx11

 

[Amnesia]

ps1 had red alert ?

and it was even playable in link up!
i swear im like a monkey with chopsticks now when using a joypad but back then somehow i seemed to have been able to play even rts games with digital pads.

using the mouse on the pc has spoilt me...even though i own a 360 and ps3 they rarely get any play time quite simply because pc's are so awesome

 

[kylew]

lol thats an insult to console gamers....that thing is not real mouse movement its actually joypad movement that the mouse mimics.
you're moving the mouse but its still only as accurate(and fast) as a joypad can be....not a mouse.

just look at how jerky the movement is...there is something better out there to help use a mouse for fps games on consoles but its a similar method as to what that is doing....so still isnt even close.

You seem to not have a clue how games work.

The game is simply tracking the x and y positions of the mouse.

That's all it does with an analogue controller, why do you think that it's emulating a controller? It's simply not. A mouse is providing the game with same instructions "x this many, y that many" that's what a controller does, the physical USAGE of the controller is what makes it hard, not the game pretending the mouse is a controller.

The movement is jerky because consoles simply aren't as good as PCs with FPS games, due to the framerate for one.

Also, have you SEEN the quality of that video? How the hell did you deduce so much from such an awful quality video?

 

[Amnesia]

tbh the better racing games on the pc are the sims....GTR 2/GT legends/rFactor/liveforspeed.

 

[Guitarman0]

Don't forget a PC is running a full blown OS as well as the game

 

[Amnesia]

You seem to not have a clue how games work.

The game is simply tracking the x and y positions of the mouse.

That's all it does with an analogue controller, why do you think that it's emulating a controller? It's simply not. A mouse is providing the game with same instructions "x this many, y that many" that's what a controller does, the physical USAGE of the controller is what makes it hard, not the game pretending the mouse is a controller.

The movement is jerky because consoles simply aren't as good as PCs with FPS games, due to the framerate for one.

Also, have you SEEN the quality of that video? How the hell did you deduce so much from such an awful quality video?

how about u get off ur high horse for once and stop thinking urself some sort of know it all......r u on ur periods 24/7 ?
all i see u do is argue and bitch all day long.

why dont u go do some research on how the developers have made this.....you can use a mouse but the inputs go in the same way a joypad would....its nowhere near as accurate as a mouse and if you turned the mouse too fast you wouldnt turn any faster than a joypad because thats the limitations of the joypad.


btw i didnt watch all the video as ive already done research on it because i was after a mouse to play games with on the xbox but this and some other device were the best and they fall a long way short.

 

[kylew]

I'm clueless? lol

Seriously, what was the last good racing game that came to PC and tell me it wasn't GRID. When did that come out? June 2008? Dude, it's nearly 2010 lol
Or it could be DiRT but guess what, both GRID and DiRT are console ports haha

There just aren't any games for the PC anymore unless they are RTS or MMORPGs.

Face it, what good games (that are better than console version) came out to PC this year that isn't a RTS or MMORPG?

I'll start of a list for Console gaming > PC gaming

- Killzone 2
- FIFA 10
- Forza 3
- Final Fantasy XIII
- Assassins Creed 2 (PC Gamers will have to wait months lol)
- Halo 3: ODST
- Uncharted 2
- inFamous
- Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City

try getting them for the PC

You are clueless. That's like saying "haha, try and play your Blu-rays in your DVD player, yeah, that's because Blu-rays are crap."

If you want console exclusives, get a console. I Have a Wii and a PS3 for console exclusives. Anything else that's multiplatform, I get on the PC.

As has already been said, PC versions are cheaper, have better graphics, more input options and are for more convenient.

If I want to play some exclusives, I'll turn on my PS3, that doesn't mean a PS3 is better than a PC, it simply means that console exclusives aren't on PC.

Best gaming experience involves A LOT of choice and options. I'd have an Xbox 360 if it had exclusives that I was interested in, but it doesn't, so in the meantime, a 360 isn't that interesting to me.

Does that make an Xbox crap? No, it simply means its content doesn't interest me, does it make PCs crap because you can't play the same games on it? Again, no.

I can say for definite that I have a better gaming experience than you do, I can choose what to play my games on, and if it's on PC, I can play it in far higher res with better textures, filtering and anti aliasing.

Plus, PS3 exclusives generally have better graphics than multi platform games anyway, simply because the PS3 is the only configuration they have to program for.

They all have their uses, and for you to moan and complain and try to give your opinion as fact, shows you are just being a fanboy.

It's fact that a PC is technically better than a PS3 in terms of graphics, it's fact that a PS3 isn't as strong as a PC in terms of graphics.

Game content however is entirely subjective, and I enjoy having a nice wide choice of games to play.

You're just losing out to be honest, at the detriment to your gaming experiences. Seems like you may be trying to prove it to yourself more than us.

 

[rypt]

- Assassins Creed 2 (PC Gamers will have to wait months lol)

Do consoles get AC2 in DX11? Nope, hah suckers.
Do consoles get dedicated servers? Nope, hah suckers.
Do consoles get to use a proper control system for FPS games?

Man, your argument kind of fails.


And who lets retards like the person in that video have a say on the matter anyway?

 

[kylew]

how about u get off ur high horse for once and stop thinking urself some sort of know it all......r u on ur periods 24/7 ?
all i see u do is argue and bitch all day long.

why dont u go do some research on how the developers have made this.....you can use a mouse but the inputs go in the same way a joypad would....its nowhere near as accurate as a mouse and if you turned the mouse too fast you wouldnt turn any faster than a joypad because thats the limitations of the joypad.


btw i didnt watch all the video as ive already done research on it because i was after a mouse to play games with on the xbox but this and some other device were the best and they fall a long way short.

Yeah, because you being wrong means I'm trying to take the moral high-ground, that makes loads of sense doesn't it?

You've been disagreed with, so this is how you respond? Really mature there.

I have played consoles with a mouse and keyboard as well, in fact, I got a mouse and keyboard for my PS2 years ago for age of empires 2.

Despite that, you haven't actually proven what I said to be wrong.

A analogue sticks on a controller are basically the same as a ball mouse, with with a different method of contolling the "co-ordinates".

As I said, up/down on an analogue stick = Y. left/right = X. An analogue stick IN ITS BASIC TERMS tells the game where to move the crosshair via a mix of X and Y co-ordinates.

This is what a mouse does, but using a mouse itself is MORE ACCURATE than an analogue stick.

Add that to the inferior performance of a console, <30FPS versus 60> on a PC and you've got yourself low accuracy. Why you felt the need to get all uppity, I don't know.

Using a mouse on a console that performs relatively badly, ISN'T going to feel the same as a PC, how hard is that to understand?

Also, EVEN IF the mouse was running through a controller emulator, the mechanical input of the device is different.

If you hacked the right analogue stick of a console controller to receive input via a mouse, and the right one to take input via a "WASD" type input, then you'd get BETTER accuracy.

It's not limited by the input from the controller itself, but by the ANALOGUE stick.

Why do you think playing FPS games on PC with a controller has similar results? Because analogue sticks are harder to use than a keyboard and mouse.

 

[rypt]

why dont u go do some research on how the developers have made this.....you can use a mouse but the inputs go in the same way a joypad would....its nowhere near as accurate as a mouse and if you turned the mouse too fast you wouldnt turn any faster than a joypad because thats the limitations of the joypad.

Analog joypad inputs behave in the same way as the mouse would, what you are talking about is digital.

 

[Amnesia]

without even reading all ur post.
its not about being right and wrong...its about ur disrepectful attitude.
how often do u start ur post with 'ur clueless' and use phrases such as 'how the hell did you come to that conclusion' in a normal discussion ?
they may not be word for word but thats how u talk so dont be surprised if someone talks back to u the same way.

as for proving u wrong .....ur the one who is claiming i was wrong and clueless .
i didnt say u were wrong and clueless ...i couldnt even make full sense of ur post.

all ive done is repeated in more detail what i first posted.

 

[Amnesia]

Analog joypad inputs behave in the same way as the mouse would, what you are talking about is digital.

and what i said is the mouse mimics the joypad input so cannot be as accurate....the main advantage of using a mouse is being able to move the crosshair from one place to another very fast and accurately.

you cannot do that with a digital or analogue pad...press the joypad fully to the right and it moves at a constant speed....nowhere near as fast as a mouse.

if you use one of these devices then u are limited to the same constant speed regardless of how fast you move the mouse because the inputs are going in with the xbox thinking they are joypad inputs.

you could move the mouse a whole meter very quickly and the not even do a full turn using one of these devices as it would only turn for aslong as you were moving the mouse.....how much distance u covered would not matter at speed.

 

[kylew]

without even reading all ur post.
its not about being right and wrong...its about ur disrepectful attitude.
how often do u start ur post with 'ur clueless' and use phrases such as 'how the hell did you come to that conclusion' in a normal discussion ?
they may not be word for word but thats how u talk so dont be surprised if someone talks back to u the same way.

as for proving u wrong .....ur the one who is claiming i was wrong and clueless .
i didnt say u were wrong and clueless ...i couldnt even make full sense of ur post.

all ive done is repeated in more detail what i first posted.

If you don't know what I'm on about, go read my post. Common sense, no?

I see you're not actually responding to what I've said though, so it's kinda obvious what's going on.

Still though, it appeared you were all uppity due to me saying that you're wrong. I also didn't call you clueless...

 

[Teaf]

:/

 

[rypt]

you cannot do that with a digital or analogue pad...press the joypad fully to the right and it moves at a constant speed....nowhere near as fast as a mouse.

Yes you can, it is due to SOFTWARE settings that the joypad moves like that, nothing to do with hardware.
Hardware wise it will behave very similar to the mouse, software wise it is a combination of the console equivalent of Windows mouse speed, mouse acceleration and the in-game sensitivity.
If the console allowed you to edit those options then it will behave exactly the same

 

[Amnesia]

Yes you can, it is due to SOFTWARE settings that the joypad moves like that, nothing to do with hardware.
Hardware wise it will behave exactly the same as a mouse, software wise it is a combination of the console equivalent of Windows mouse speed, mouse acceleration and the in-game sensitivity.
If the console allowed you to edit those options then it will behave exactly the same.

so ur saying that a joypad isnt as accurate as a mouse because of software settings ?

 

[Amnesia]

If you don't know what I'm on about, go read my post. Common sense, no?

I see you're not actually responding to what I've said though, so it's kinda obvious what's going on.

Still though, it appeared you were all uppity due to me saying that you're wrong. I also didn't call you clueless...

You seem to not have a clue how games work.

i couldnt make sense of it the first time ....make it a bit more clear and il give it a go ...fair ?

 

[kylew]

and what i said is the mouse mimics the joypad input so cannot be as accurate....the main advantage of using a mouse is being able to move the crosshair from one place to another very fast and accurately.

you cannot do that with a digital or analogue pad...press the joypad fully to the right and it moves at a constant speed....nowhere near as fast as a mouse.

if you use one of these devices then u are limited to the same constant speed regardless of how fast you move the mouse because the inputs are going in with the xbox thinking they are joypad inputs.

Which is wrong as I've already explained to you.

For a mouse to mimic the way a joypad works, means it'd have to have the same components as a joypad.

Otherwise, it's just feeding the game with raw data, as I've told you multiple times, co-ordinates. We're talking about analogue sticks, they have values attached to the movement of the poles.

An analogue stick is basically a potentiometer with 2 axes. A ball mouse and an analogue stick follow the same basic principals, the mouse isn't pretending to be an analogue stick at all.

A lot of console ports have the analogue stick controls (co-ordinates) routed to the x and y axis tracking of a mouse. This is true control pad emulation, yet the mouse is STILL more accurate than the controller.

 

[Deadbeat]

Analog joypad inputs behave in the same way as the mouse would, what you are talking about is digital.

its not about being right and wrong...its about ur disrepectful attitude.

I disagree. Whereas there is a certain element of supercilious beligerence to a lot of rypt's posts, in this case s/he's clearly out and out wrong. Admittedly, in a very very simplified representation, mouse control can be analogised more completely to analog inputs like a joypad thumbstick as opposed to, say, a hat switch, which is purely digital, but saying analog(ue) stick control is comparable to mouse control is... well, there's an ignorance in such a statement that borders on dribbling stupidity. Being right is nowhere near as important as knowing when you're wrong.

 

[Gerard]

without even reading all ur post.
its not about being right and wrong...its about ur disrepectful attitude.
how often do u start ur post with 'ur clueless' and use phrases such as 'how the hell did you come to that conclusion' in a normal discussion ?
they may not be word for word but thats how u talk so dont be surprised if someone talks back to u the same way.

as for proving u wrong .....ur the one who is claiming i was wrong and clueless .
i didnt say u were wrong and clueless ...i couldnt even make full sense of ur post.

all ive done is repeated in more detail what i first posted.

There is a "y "and an "o" on your keyboard, please research this.