PS3 Price Drop

kalanium said:
Why does the 360's backward compatibility have anything to do with what the PS3 can and cant do? Its the same with Sony attack the competition rather then promote your own product (not saying you are attacking anything just to make it clear :p)

The problem isnt over how many games do and dont work, its the fact that the EE chip was included in the first place for the US and Japan then it was removed for the European launch and as usual its always Europe that gets the short end of the stick be it over release dates or price. Even after having to wait 4 months longer then everyone else we also have to wait even longer before we can play our PS1/PS2 games and eventually remove the PS2 from our setups completely. To put it short we wait longer, pay more and get less.
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Wasnt ment to be an attack on Microsoft , just a note about BC in other consoles. Hasnt the UK always been like this we pay more and have to wait longer ? Cars not many years ago was launched in the US/Japan before us for less money, even european cars had better specification ie aircon, headlamp wash and cost less than we had to pay! I know its a totally different thing cars and electronics, but us Brits always seem to be getting the raw deal , that'll teach us for having a currency so strong!

Didnt mean to start a PS3 Vs 360 debate (again), I thought i was just giving a bit more detail about the BC on a PS3!

Anyway i believe that a pricedrop will be forth coming in October this year when Sony start using Cells outsourced to other companies such as IBM. Also IBM’s East Fishkill, New York plant has started on producing 65nM Cells, when they make there way to the PS3 who knows for sure, but rumours for it point it to be autumn this year.
 
msmalls74 said:
There are approx 2,500 Pal PS2 games with at the moment about 1,700 working ( higher % than the 360 does).The 10,000 games included all the Japanese versions of games never released in pal regions, these games you would not of been able to play even if they had kept the EE in as those games are region locked to Japan. Only PS3 games are multi-region, there are some obvious PS2 games that should work under emulation but don't, hopefully that will change. Hope that helps clear up some points.
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You can actually play games from any region using disk magic. The thing is those 1,700 are only called "compatible" by sony, very few work without some form of bugs which can be pretty serious. It can't even play ff7,8,9 last time I checked, and there were issues with x and xii. Just the biggest games out on the ps1/ps2.
 
I did say it wasnt a dig at you :) Just in general when discussing any flaw with the PS3 or broken promises, the 360 always has to be brought into it.

Yes we always do get the RAW deal, we pay more and get less, but it doesnt make it ok. I'm all for cutting costs to make it cheaper to produce and in turn cheaper for us, but when they start removing things from the console to make it inferior to the US and Japan models it just isnt fair and is the reason why people are ****ed off with it (concerning the BC anyway).

I honestly dont have a problem with the price, my problem is what its offering for the price, which isnt a lot. People can bang on about how much your saving being able to play blu-ray movies on PS3 rather then buy a seperate player, but for me I buy a games console for games and there is basically naff all I want to play on PS3 atm and in the near future. The same goes for lots of other people too. Also to add insult to injury most of their 'must have exclusives' are going/have gone multi-platform delaying my purchase even further or maybe making me not want one full stop.

The only way PS3 is going to recover is to get some AAA game titles, cut the cost considerably and stop bashing the competition at every turn, but instead focus more on what their product can do and show us what it can do rather then relying on their brand loyalty/fan base.

They have their work cut out for them and I hope they do recover because who wants the market dominated by one brand? I think Sony will probably recover but there isnt a chance in hell that they are going to dominate the market this time round like they did with the PS2, I think it will be more of an even playing field this time around IMO.
 
I only know 1 person who has a PS3 and he swapped his Xbox 360, come from a working class town and nobody wants to spend £425+ on a console and games.

People say blu ray is the saving grace for the PS3, I say its the saving grace for Sony as a whole who are in massive dept.
 
cheets64 said:
People say blu ray is the saving grace for the PS3, I say its the saving grace for Sony as a whole who are in massive dept.
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It's more the other way round really. Without the ps3, hd-dvd would probably have won because of the much lower prices.
 
Energize said:
It's more the other way round really. Without the ps3, hd-dvd would probably have won because of the much lower prices.
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I do think without blue ray the market would have been very different. Sony seem happy to cripple their PS3 slightly to gain momentum in the sale of HD media though. Best of luck to them and I hope they weren't too greedy in their decision.
 
Kreeeee said:
I do think without blue ray the market would have been very different. Sony seem happy to cripple their PS3 slightly to gain momentum in the sale of HD media though. Best of luck to them and I hope they weren't too greedy in their decision.
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Thats what I mean sony not putting out a non blu ray ps3 is a shocker, the fact the PS3 has blu ray means it sell for mega bucks, sony would easily drop the ps3 for worldwide percentage of the blu ray discs
 
What I dont want to see is a new format every 5 years or so offering nothing but a better picture. Going from VHS to DVD did offer quite a lot of new things (no rewinding, interactive menus, optional subtitles/different language tracks etc) and not just Improved picture quality, but going from DVD to Blu-ray/HD-DVD I really cannot see what it offers apart from better picture quality. Which is the reason I will not drop my DVD collection and start again from scratch. There is also the possiblilty that either one format or the other will fail or maybe both if downloading HD films/Tv shows ever took off big time - cant see it happening though. With the billions Sony invested in Blu-ray they cannot afford for it to fail and if it does succeed they will be reaping the rewards for many years to come (unless they start doing what I explained above :p).
 
Does anyone watch those commentaries etc? The only reason I bought dvd was because it was modern and had better picture quality, rewinding never bothered me as the vcr automatically did it at the end of the video anyway.

One thing that bugs me is why did the fools at sony only put in a 720p mode when almost all lcds are 768p?
 
Skyfall said:
Personally I dont find that a problem, the problem is that other people can and sony chose to take it away from us because they included cell processors and blu-ray drives which hike the manufacturing proces up so much.
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I thought we could play ps2 games on it :confused: or am i missing something big here?
 
G-MAN2004 said:
I thought we could play ps2 games on it :confused: or am i missing something big here?
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Only a select few, they took away the ee and gs to cut down costs leaving us with poor backwards compatiblity, and they still didn't lower the price! I don't think sony have a hope in hell of winning the console war the way they are going.
 
I think I may considure getting a PS3 when it reaches the £350 mark, but until that point, not for me thank you! :)
 
I think that this price drop is a promising move, however it will probably be a long time before it's dropped to a reasonable price. I was really disappointed to find out just how many ps2 games we have won't work though :(. My boyfriend wants a ps3 for the new games, but if he gets it, we'll have to keep the ps2 out for Guitar Hero etc.

I agree with Kalanium, I won't re-build my film collection on blu ray/hddvd. I've been building my dvd collection for almost 7 years now, and there's just not enough of a difference for me to spend what would probably be thousands of pounds replacing everything.
 
Needles said:
the whole bc point is mute because anyone who spends 425 on a console to play last gen games needs a good shaking
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Anyone who says that needs a good shaking also. Because it's obvious that people want bc so that they dont have to have 2 consoles on the tv stand, 2 sets of wires, 2 sets of controllers, not simply to play ps2 games on and not play any ps3 games. :rolleyes:

I would hardly call god of war 2 last gen.
 
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Energize said:
Anyone who says that needs a good shaking also. Because it's obvious that people want bc so that they dont have to have 2 consoles on the tv stand, 2 sets of wires, 2 sets of controllers, not simply to play ps2 games on and not play any ps3 games. :rolleyes:
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Exactly. No normal person wants to give up a huge back catalogue of games they've collected just because a new console with what, 5 games, has come out.
 
Needles said:
well if people are still so into ps2 games stick with it then and leave ps3 to the next-gen
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But people want to play both ps2 and ps3 games. I wouldn't be pleased if none of the pc games I like playing so much worked after I upgrade to vista.
 
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