Mo, they have said there will be a mechanism to allow you to sell/buy second hand games.
PS4 and Xbox Rumours
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I wonder what Mark Cerny would be thinking looking at Xbox One Console 
I think Sky/VM wouldnt be that appreciative of MS attempting to 'replace' their boxes/UIs - guess theres a set of cheques waiting to be written...
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A mechanism where you pay a fee.
B) if games has to be tied to account that basically results in alway online / have to have Internet to install game.
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I think Sky/VM wouldnt be that appreciative of MS attempting to 'replace' their boxes/UIs - guess theres a set of cheques waiting to be written...
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I wouldn't be surprised, with the money behind MS, if Sky announces a new Sky+ box with XBox One connectivity.
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This is what I don't understand.
Well as an example VM spent a load of money getting the TIVO setup on their boxes, so I just dont see where they would be particularly happy to lose all that additional functionality by allowing their boxes/services to work via XO - it does seem MS hasnt really looked past the US TV service. Also as an aside it reduces the disparity in features between competing services like Sky and VM to boot...
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XBO is only a front end to control those devices though. All of the content, purchased or otherwise, will still be accessed via those devices 
Well as an example VM spent a load of money getting the TIVO setup on their boxes, so I just dont see where they would be particularly happy to lose all that additional functionality by allowing their boxes/services to work via XO - it does seem MS hasnt really looked past the US TV service...
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And interestingly they've just been bought by Infinity Global who have a much nicer TiVO-esque UI Middleware I assume will be taking over from now.
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XBO is only a front end to control those devices though. All of the content, purchased or otherwise, will still be accessed via those devices
so I still need a loads of boxes under the TV
isn't it easier just to watch TV on the sky box, and just use the xbox for games?
Depends if it allowed them to offer an IPTV service without the expense of providing subsidised dishes/cables/set top boxes etc I guess? NowTV and SkyGo already do a limited version of thatI think Sky/VM wouldnt be that appreciative of MS attempting to 'replace' their boxes/UIs - guess theres a set of cheques waiting to be written...
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But their now very well polished UIs would be completely ignored, the content that VM and Sky have isnt that different, but how they present it and able to digest it is (and is considered by most their USPs for similar services), something like XO just removes that entirely it seems.XBO is only a front end to control those devices though. All of the content, purchased or otherwise, will still be accessed via those devices
Anyway its a niche concern that no doubt isnt that important for now, Im sure as details come in we will find out how and if this ever works like it was demonstrated in the UK
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won't work, not enough people have the bandwidth for 1080i
Missed the presentation, but read this thread to catch up.
Questions:
1) Is there a link to the COD gameplay video anywhere? not interested in the other games as they were all CGI/in game renders, whatever.
2) Anyone think the USB port on the side might be for some sort of add-on accessory? The placement of it seems weird and the recessed port made me think some device slots onto the side of the console.
3) I am not an expert on these things, but does HDMI passthrough work irrespective of HDCP etc? Could 3rd parties block it (i.e.e sky and virgin that people suggested)
4) Did they actually specify if you could record via this passthrough? Any mention of storage expansion/limits, if that was the case?
Comments:
- Name seems quite cool to me. no-once cares about this SEO crap, within a month or 2 searching "xbox one" will show results of the current console rather than the 1st console.
- A lot of vents and/or fans. This thing gonna be noisey! Sadly probably means the PS4 will have many vents/fans as their similar specs probably generate similar heat. Unless it is a design choice, the Kinect sensor has a similar vent on it!!!
- TV stuff will be non existent in the UK on launch (dunno why pioneer keeps banging on about it when he won't see the majority of that functionality till 2015 in UK!!!). I recall they were banging on about BT IPTV coming to 360. never materialsed. The ideas are great, but you will still need multiple remotes (and their is some IR jack output for blaster type functions).
- Dunno why I care, but the back of the console and the ports look quite cool to me, I even like the boxy design as a whole tbh.
- Halo TV series would be cool (for hardcore fans, not for me!!). BUT only if it airs on xbox one worldwide on the same day/time. Otherwise we will get it months later in the UK, or we will get it next day but only as part of some subscription channel on Sky.
-2nd hand, always on, hard drive installs on 1st use. Intentionally vague. I suspect they have a couple of plans they could go with dependent on what Sony announce.
-500GB hard drive too small if games are mandatory installs. Why do we need them anyway? Cant they go back to caching like xbox1 and make use of the (presumed) faster blu ray drives and loads of RAM?
All I can think of for now.
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Questions:
1) Is there a link to the COD gameplay video anywhere? not interested in the other games as they were all CGI/in game renders, whatever.
2) Anyone think the USB port on the side might be for some sort of add-on accessory? The placement of it seems weird and the recessed port made me think some device slots onto the side of the console.
3) I am not an expert on these things, but does HDMI passthrough work irrespective of HDCP etc? Could 3rd parties block it (i.e.e sky and virgin that people suggested)
4) Did they actually specify if you could record via this passthrough? Any mention of storage expansion/limits, if that was the case?
Comments:
- Name seems quite cool to me. no-once cares about this SEO crap, within a month or 2 searching "xbox one" will show results of the current console rather than the 1st console.
- A lot of vents and/or fans. This thing gonna be noisey! Sadly probably means the PS4 will have many vents/fans as their similar specs probably generate similar heat. Unless it is a design choice, the Kinect sensor has a similar vent on it!!!
- TV stuff will be non existent in the UK on launch (dunno why pioneer keeps banging on about it when he won't see the majority of that functionality till 2015 in UK!!!). I recall they were banging on about BT IPTV coming to 360. never materialsed. The ideas are great, but you will still need multiple remotes (and their is some IR jack output for blaster type functions).
- Dunno why I care, but the back of the console and the ports look quite cool to me, I even like the boxy design as a whole tbh.
- Halo TV series would be cool (for hardcore fans, not for me!!). BUT only if it airs on xbox one worldwide on the same day/time. Otherwise we will get it months later in the UK, or we will get it next day but only as part of some subscription channel on Sky.
-2nd hand, always on, hard drive installs on 1st use. Intentionally vague. I suspect they have a couple of plans they could go with dependent on what Sony announce.
-500GB hard drive too small if games are mandatory installs. Why do we need them anyway? Cant they go back to caching like xbox1 and make use of the (presumed) faster blu ray drives and loads of RAM?
All I can think of for now.
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Caporegime
That's going to be tricky. If they have a mechanism to "activate" and "deactivate" games so that you can buy/sell second-hand, what's there to stop Joe Bloggs from pretending he's deactivated his game when he takes it to Game to sell on?
Soldato
Quite ironic that lots of people here were saying "just show me the games", and now that it's over they're discussing the media aspects of the console rather than the actual games that were announced. 
McLaren being a key partner for Forza 5 seems pretty exciting - no doubt their cars will all be part of the next iteration of the Autovista feature, which should be even more interactive with the new Kinect
Ghosts looks graphically impressive - staying at 60fps will also ensure the gameplay doesn't suffer. I'd be interested to know if it will be native 1080p.
McLaren being a key partner for Forza 5 seems pretty exciting - no doubt their cars will all be part of the next iteration of the Autovista feature, which should be even more interactive with the new Kinect
Ghosts looks graphically impressive - staying at 60fps will also ensure the gameplay doesn't suffer. I'd be interested to know if it will be native 1080p.
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Quite ironic that lots of people here were saying "just show me the games", and now that it's over they're discussing the media aspects of the console rather than the actual games that were announced.
McLaren being a key partner for Forza 5 seems pretty exciting - no doubt their cars will all be part of the next iteration of the Autovista feature, which should be even more interactive with the new Kinect
Ghosts looks graphically impressive - staying at 60fps will also ensure the gameplay doesn't suffer. I'd be interested to know if it will be native 1080p.
What do you want them to discuss? The games they don't know of?
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Quite ironic that lots of people here were saying "just show me the games", and now that it's over they're discussing the media aspects of the console rather than the actual games that were announced.
because before the reveal we thought it was a games console, now we know it isnt
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