PS4 and Xbox Rumours

Pac3y said:
I don't quite understand why you would want to purchase an adapter to control your existing tv box via the xboxo? The tv unit and the xboxo would be both consuming power just so you can flail your arms, or give a speech command rather than pressing 101 etc? Nah.
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I dont think its an adaptor as such. I think they mean a cable provider box. The Xbox One wont have a Sky or Virgin or anyone elses cable/sat tuners.
 
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djkav said:
I dont think its an adaptor as such. I think they mean a cable provider box. The Xbox One wont have a Sky or Virgin or anyone elses cable/sat tuners.
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Indeed, I'm assuming you just plug in or stream over wifi/internet all your TV/Video/music/photo/media stuff and control/view it all from the Xbox without having to switch to different devices
 
djkav said:
I dont think its an adaptor as such. I think they mean a cable provider box. The Xbox One wont have a Sky or Virgin or anyone elses cable/sat tuners.
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Even so I still find it a little pointless, no doubt some people will find it beneficial but the increased noise / heat / power consumption of 2x running units out weigh whole idea to me.

Musing further, i use an amp for audio (surround) etc - I wonder how it's going to effect that side.. hmm.
 
It's an HDMI passthrough just like Google TV. Presumably they have developed an API in tandem with the middleware suppliers of STB manufacturers in order to share EPG data, OR it's just a video passthrough with the EPG data coming from Microsoft's Servers and it blurts out IR codes to control the box. Perfectly possible with Sky & Virgin but both are notoriously unfriendly when it comes to third parties.
 
Chris1712 said:
It's an HDMI passthrough just like Google TV. Presumably they have developed an API in tandem with the middleware suppliers of STB manufacturers in order to share EPG data, OR it's just a video passthrough with the EPG data coming from Microsoft's Servers and it blurts out IR codes to control the box. Perfectly possible with Sky & Virgin but both are notoriously unfriendly when it comes to third parties.
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Although SkyGo works nicely on 360 complete with EPG. It'd be interesting to see what a next gen version could look like
 
Phil Harrison spoke to Eurogamer -

Our man on the ground Tom Bramwell was able to speak to corporate vice president of Microsoft Phil Harrison about this hot-button issue and was able to confirm that a second user can install a game from a friend's disc for a fee, though it's unclear how much this will be. Harrison also confirmed that several users sharing a console can access the same game at no additional charge, and Microsoft has "a solution" for the resale market, though it's staying mum on those for now.
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-05-21-xbox-one-second-hand-games-will-charge-a-fee-to-play
 
glen8 said:
why pointless?

by using xbox one as my ALL in one entertainment system I am now down to a quarter of usable storage space for recording TV
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The storage of your Sky+ box hasn't magically disappeared though? The 500gb Xbox HDD will be used for Xbox stuff, game installs saves DLC etc. just like the current console. Though I agree towards the end of its life it could be on the small side, I still have a launch day premium with a 20gb (!) HDD and it's a real pain.
 
PlayTV on PS3 had a fully functioning EPG but of course that was just digital TV as opposed to something like Sky. All I'm really saying is that I'm sure it's not completely impossible for MS to work with the likes of Sky to provide the TV functionality in the UK.
 
Macro said:
Seems a reasonable compromise if I can share a copy of a game with a mate at a discounted price (i.e. I buy it for £35 he gets a copy for £15), as long as I can play it on any machine as long as I log in with my account.
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I don't imagine it will be discounted TBH.
 
Chris1712 said:
The storage of your Sky+ box hasn't magically disappeared though? The 500gb Xbox HDD will be used for Xbox stuff, game installs saves DLC etc. just like the current console. Though I agree towards the end of its life it could be on the small side, I still have a launch day premium with a 20gb (!) HDD and it's a real pain.
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ah..so if I say XBOX RECORD, it actually records on the sky box?

what about cataloging stuff in the xbox video section?

hang on, I need sky box as well? thought this was an ALL in one. Kinda assumed my viewing card number would be linked to the new console
 
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ic1male said:
Phil Harrison spoke to Eurogamer -



http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-05-21-xbox-one-second-hand-games-will-charge-a-fee-to-play
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And more:

Harrison: Okay, so, I can understand where some of the confusion may have come from, so let me try to help out there. First of all, you can buy a game on a disc from a retail store, come home and install it to your Xbox One. The disc contains all the bits and data on that game, which you can then give to your friend, and they can then install it on their Xbox One. No restriction on that, except that the second person obviously has to pay for it.

You can purchase a game in two ways: you can purchase it from a retail store or you can download it. So the act of putting the bits on the hard drive - the Xbox One doesn't really know or care what method the bits got into the machine, if it was from a disc or downloaded from Xbox Live. But obviously the users will then have to purchase that content.
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So exactly the same as the 360? Install != Play. Remember you buy a license to play the game not the actual content.
 
So each Game will have a unique serial that is cross checked to see if its been installed on a console or not? If it has the 2nd console has to pay a reduced fee. Seems pretty simple if thats the case
 
glen8 said:
ah..so if I say XBOX RECORD, it actually records on the sky box?

what about cataloging stuff in the xbox video section?

hang on, I need sky box as well? thought this was an ALL in one
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The ability to share recorded content across devices is something else entirely, and something I doubt anyone would agree to. Content providers are very very scared about security. The Xbox just does HDMI Passthrough, ie the video goes through the box so it's UI can be overlayed. First and foremost that is it. They may have developed a way to control the box in tandem with the providers over the HDMI CEC channel (in addition to video passthrough), but the presence of an IR blaster port on the back makes that unlikely. Google TV works in the same manner.

The problem is the pay-tv market of the US is quite dramatically different to the UK. They have competition, different delivery systems and a much more open and dare I say it 'capitalistic' style of competition.
Theoretically Sky could chuck their decryption onto a CI Card and then every TV could receive and decode Sky channels without a Sky box. But ofcourse they won't do that because they then don't make money (or ensure security) without selling their own boxes. In the US (& most of Europe) this is the case where you'd get a subscriber card that works in CI+ TV. In the US it may be able to be ALL-IN-ONE eventually with IPTV, there's already a FIOS is it which does this?

EDIT: OR, just spitballing here - That unusual USB port on the side could be for TV Tuner support. The problem is the varying delivery systems they'd need to cover (DVB-T/T2/C/C2/S/S2/IDVBT etc. etc.) but luckily a certain Imagination Technologies (best mates with Apple) are working on a software defined radio for this very purpose..........
 
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