QLED vs OLED

I've got an LG B6 and there is no sign of burn-in at all, I use for gaming and for my htpc, so some light pc use as well.

There is a poll on AVforums, nearly 1 in 5 people with a 2016 model OLED report seeing some burn in, the later models appear less prone to it, so why not cover it under warranty.
 
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Yup, I can see why people are hesitant to go oled but the problems are over exaggerated big time and it's nothing but scare mongering going around now, that and usually people who want to justify their LCD purchase ;) :p

Oh well, people's loss, let them flock to their LCD displays, I'll sit here and enjoy my superior IQ with inky blacks/infinite contrast ratio :D :cool: ;)

Which doesn’t mean the problem does not exist. For me it’s not worth the worry, others feel differently.

Problem exists under certain conditions i.e. likes of sky news on 8+ hours a day @ some stupid oled light setting of 80+%, those are the only times I have ever seen people report bad burn in. If you need to have your OLED light setting that high then it would be wise to invest in a good set of blinds/curtains regardless of what TV you have......

Testing shows even an hour a day of static content is enough to burn an OLED.

If the games you play mostly have no HUD or static content then you will have no issues.

Varied content is the key to avoid burn in.

If I was buying a TV for console or PC use it would have to be LCD.

If buying for tv and movies then OLED.

Simple as that really.

If for mixed usage then it would have to be minimum 80% tv and movies content to be on the safe side.

As above, used mine for hundreds of hours of gaming which have bright huds and still no burn in, even with HDR gaming i.e. when OLED light setting will be at 100%

You can argue the point all you like, but it’s a fact that burn in is possible. If the issue is so rare and unlikely then it should be covered under warranty.

Again, for people will silly usage and silly brightness settings, yup, likely going to get burn in. Be sensible with settings (i.e. use recommended settings, which are also the recommended settings when it comes to proper calibration any way)

This is what LG have on their site:

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Pretty sure I've seen a few say that LG repaired their screens with burn in too.
 
i love how people come on here and say i use it for gaming and have no burn in. but you don't use it solely to play 1 game all the time.

people game differently.

if i solely only play fifa for 6 hours per day. don't watch any tv or movie content. so just fifa and nothing else.

what do you think will happen? would you recommend an OLED for this usage pattern?

this is why i said varied content is key. you use it as a htpc which is varied content it's for movies which is constantly moving images.

it depends on the person and their usage.

nobody can say I won't get burn in. any of you willing to hand me £2K in cash if I get burn in from gaming? if you are then i'll take you up on that offer and get an OLED at the end of the month.
 
There is a poll on AVforums, nearly 1 in 5 people with a 2016 model OLED report seeing some burn in, the later models appear less prone to it, so why not cover it under warranty.

Well, it's not a technical fault if the user leaves a static image on the screen for a long period of time, it's user error. For a relatively new set to experience this, I would say they should cover it, for older sets I kind of understand why they wouldn't.
 
Well, it's not a technical fault if the user leaves a static image on the screen for a long period of time, it's user error. For a relatively new set to experience this, I would say they should cover it, for older sets I kind of understand why they wouldn't.

most games have static content. so are you saying they shouldn't be used for gaming only? which is basically what i said above.

OLED should only be bought if you are going to be using varied content on a regular basis. simple as that.
 
my issue with OLED is how they degrade. Consider that a tv will likely have more screen on time than a phone, every samsung phone I have owned the degradation is very visible within 1-2 years of the phone been first turned on. Whilst I dont see that with IPS phones.

Now maybe you buy new tv's often or maybe OLED in tv's has better longevity than OLED in phones I dont know.
 
i love how people come on here and say i use it for gaming and have no burn in. but you don't use it solely to play 1 game all the time.

people game differently.

if i solely only play fifa for 6 hours per day. don't watch any tv or movie content. so just fifa and nothing else.

what do you think will happen? would you recommend an OLED for this usage pattern?

this is why i said varied content is key. you use it as a htpc which is varied content it's for movies which is constantly moving images.

it depends on the person and their usage.

nobody can say I won't get burn in. any of you willing to hand me £2K in cash if I get burn in from gaming? if you are then i'll take you up on that offer and get an OLED at the end of the month.

There have been games that I have played for about 4-6 hours a day over 2/3 weeks before with very little else in between and still no burn in or even since red dead 2 came out, my TV has hardly been used for anything else except maybe 1 or 2 tv episodes each day.

I think it's safe to say that, that sort of usage (i.e. only playing 1 game with NOTHING else) is extremely rare...... And if you all do is play 1 game and nothing else, then yes, OLED is not for you.

my issue with OLED is how they degrade. Consider that a tv will likely have more screen on time than a phone, every samsung phone I have owned the degradation is very visible within 1-2 years of the phone been first turned on. Whilst I dont see that with IPS phones.

Now maybe you buy new tv's often or maybe OLED in tv's has better longevity than OLED in phones I dont know.

You can't compare mobile phone OLEDs to TV OLEDs, completely different.

Depends entirely on OLED light setting and what content you watch:

https://www.techhive.com/article/3239350/smart-tv/will-hdr-kill-your-oled-tv.html

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?id=1465304750&subaction=showfull

So in short, nothing to worry about.
 
There is a poll on AVforums, nearly 1 in 5 people with a 2016 model OLED report seeing some burn in, the later models appear less prone to it, so why not cover it under warranty.
They didn't cover dead LCD pixels at all for a very long time, and they only do now if its a large % I believe - so there are issues on both sides.

I honestly don't think burn in is any issue at all now, especially with the later models /years getting the equivelant of orbiter where it fractionally moves the logo a few pixels every so often

my issue with OLED is how they degrade. Consider that a tv will likely have more screen on time than a phone, every samsung phone I have owned the degradation is very visible within 1-2 years of the phone been first turned on. Whilst I dont see that with IPS phones.

Now maybe you buy new tv's often or maybe OLED in tv's has better longevity than OLED in phones I dont know.

Screen quality / quality control will have different thresholds as well for a phone compared to a Tv.
Its also quite possible that the phone screen is active for a bigger percentage of the day compared to the tv as well so its not as even as a comparison as you might first think.
 
Well, it's not a technical fault if the user leaves a static image on the screen for a long period of time, it's user error. For a relatively new set to experience this, I would say they should cover it, for older sets I kind of understand why they wouldn't.

2 years is not old for a TV though. What people are saying is, it’s ok to buy this TV, just don’t turn up the brightness or watch anything with static images for too long. I bet they dont tell you that in store when purchasing.
 
2 years is not old for a TV though. What people are saying is, it’s ok to buy this TV, just don’t turn up the brightness or watch anything with static images for too long. I bet they dont tell you that in store when purchasing.

Thing is people who are turning their brightness/oled light setting up are actually doing more harm to the IQ than good for SDR content, again, if you are someone who actually needs to have 300+ nits on SDR content then get new curtains or blinds..... (the recommended luminance for when calibrating for SDR is 120 luminance....)

As for not staying on static content for too long, if you are one of these people who watch sky news for a constant 6+ hours @500 nits then yup, oled not the right choice.
 
You can argue the point all you like, but it’s a fact that burn in is possible. If the issue is so rare and unlikely then it should be covered under warranty.

It's a bit like not buying a nice car because you might crash it so you settle on a banger instead.
 
As long as I get 5 years out of my OLED I will be happy, my plasma only lasted 6 years. Hopefully by then 8k sets will have dropped more :D
 
As long as I get 5 years out of my OLED I will be happy, my plasma only lasted 6 years. Hopefully by then 8k sets will have dropped more :D

there's a brand new ZT 60 Plasma for sale.....never used and kept in storage, he wants 3.4 K for it which is way too much even for the best plasma ever.............. it's cash only and no seeing it work beforehand, you pay for what's hidden in the box. this is as SUSPICIOUS AS HALL ............YOU'VE GOT NO MONEY BACK on a purchase like this........ lets see if he replies..

to me it's just plain stupid, imagine buying a tv from a private seller without seeing it work and him expecting this to be ok, my email wasn't very friendly...................LOL
 
You can argue the point all you like, but it’s a fact that burn in is possible. If the issue is so rare and unlikely then it should be covered under warranty.

Of course it's possible, but not guaranteed. I'll continue to enjoy my OLED whilst others don't because they worry about something that might never happen.
 
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