PC's will ALWAYS be better for gaming if you have the money to invest in a good machine. Games consoles are very cost effective though and easy to use.. the way I look at it games consoles are ideal for children and pc gaming is more adult orientated as it's much more expensive and a lot more technical.
It shows how flawed the list is, I bet epic games like Starcraft and Fallout are not even on it.2 out of the top 20 games of all time on Gamerankings are PC games

Agreed.the best is having both.
Doesnt need to be, 360 can push out some great graphics, look at GoW, pound for pound a Xbox 360 and DX10 are close, DX10 card £350+ Xbox 360 system £250
If you get the cheapest Core 2 Duo and an X1950Pro or higher you've already done it.if you get qaud core and buy a top end gf9 upon release then your pc will be (considerably) better than any of the current consoles on the market

If you get the cheapest Core 2 Duo and an X1950Pro or higher you've already done it.![]()
lol true. but tbh the crysis trailer makes my ps3 look old already

lol true. but tbh the crysis trailer makes my ps3 look old already
It has a weaker GPU than the 360, so I doubt it.tbh ps3 prob has a lot more than we have seen
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) I would say it has a great selection available. Also I dont need to "tweak" settings to gain a few extra FPS which im also sorry to say alott of the guys who use this forum buy expensive rigs and bench mark it for the e-peen competition.

It has a weaker GPU than the 360, so I doubt it.
Not really you need both for the best. 2 out of the top 20 games of all time on Gamerankings are PC games. the other 18 console games are mostly adult orientated games too. Not that there is anything wrong with so called "children games". You can spend as much as you want on a PC but it's not gonna make much difference when developers are making games for consoles. As i said though. It's always pointless to say which is the best. Neither is but the best is having both.
If you're going to swear by the Valve survey to paint a picture of what the "average PC gaming machine" is then you're going to have to also swear that the average PC gamer doesn't play many games at all since according to that survey the average PC wouldn't even be able to play games like Bioshock.I remember seeing valves survey and most of the guys playing cs have a pretty poor PC compared to what most of you would imagine "average".
Is there even such thing as esports on console?Yeah there have been loads of great multiplayer games since CS.... none any where near as popular im afraid. If you look at the esports I dont see any sorry to say. Some are great but they dont have any longetivity and surely your not blind to this?
If you're going to say that old PC games aren't really a "back catalogue" just because it's an older platform and has almost unlimited backwards compatibility then I guess we'll have to scrub Xbox games from the Xbox 360 back catalogue and PS2 games from the PS3 back catalogue since they aren't originally for those consoles.My point about a big back catalogue is considering the time its been out (a lot less then a PC) I would say it has a great selection available. Also I dont need to "tweak" settings to gain a few extra FPS which im also sorry to say alott of the guys who use this forum buy expensive rigs and bench mark it for the e-peen competition.
Not only do consoles sell at a loss, and the games cost more to make up for it, it's a simple fact that you get what you pay for. PCs cost more because they do more and also because they simply have more grunt on most areas than consoles, by leaps and bounds.360 is <£280 as well and usually comes with a decent bundle of games as well so yes its great value for money. Also I would say playing an xbox/ps3 is more socially acceptible then sitting and playing on a PC on your own cant do that with mates in your room![]()

Again, I'd say they're CS players and not PC gamers. The difference being their PCs won't run a lot of new games and they seem to be content using their PC just to play CS, or they have a console for newer games.http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html
Seems an average spec is
2mb net
512-1gb mem although says 512-999 so im guessing some where between that
Intel 2.3-2.69
nvidia 6600
I think my sarcasm detector is broken, are you serious?god even my xp2700+ cpu and 6800gs 1 gig ram blows away a 360, playing bioshock at 1280 x 960 looks a lot better than on my mates 360.