Queen Elizabeth II has passed away - keep posts civil and respectful

Freefaller said:
No I don't - nor do millions of others. But apparently if you don't get it you're somehow inferior or a bad person. I do think whilst this is sad, I feel the death and burial of Olivia Pratt-Korbel which is tomorrow is sadder and for me than the death of the Queen. I don't mean that with any disrespect to the queen, 96 years and 70 years on the throne is epic and undoubtedly will not be repeated for long time if ever - but let's just be rational about it....

I do appreciate for some it's the end of an "era" but it was on the cards.
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This. I didnt have any ill will against her and did respect her. However i am not in the slightest bit sad. She was 96 and led a massively privileged life many could only dream of. I share no affinity or common ground with her. I appreciate it must be a sad time for her family and friends, but for me? Not in the slightest.

I agree with what you said about the saturation of coverage. It is just too much. Every website i visit has an empty platitude about how sad they are she has died, my Sky TV guide has it emblazened everywhere, and the BBC homepage has been pretty much nothing but news about the Queen since it happened.
 
Jono8 said:
This. I didnt have any ill will against her and did respect her. However i am not in the slightest bit sad. She was 96 and led a massively privileged life many could only dream of. I share no affinity or common ground with her. I appreciate it must be a sad time for her family and friends, but for me? Not in the slightest.

I agree with what you said about the saturation of coverage. It is just too much. Every website i visit has an empty platitude about how sad they are she has died, my Sky TV guide has it emblazened everywhere, and the BBC homepage has been pretty much nothing but news about the Queen since it happened.
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You don't care, other people do - it's a point you need to stop banging on about. The 'excessive coverage' mostly applies to BBC, the other programes have kept to the schedule and it's not like the streaming services have shut down. If you don't like it then don't watch BBC. Simple solution, no?
 
Hotwired said:
I don't recognise what you're saying.

The only people I've seen falling into the inferior and bad person category are the ones actively trying to sabotage/hijack/otherwise strongly disrespect the event, which when it comes right down to it, is a huge number of people paying respects to a coffin.

But that's a long way from not getting it.
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I think being rude at a funeral or behaving badly at someone's death is unacceptable. However once it is done, people shouldn't be shouted down for their views.


Anyway apologies for throwing a cat amongst the pigeons. I'll let you all continue your vigil in peace I don't want to distract you from your reflections and grief.
 
Freefaller said:
This is why I'm not being disrespectful. I do understand that for many she was what has been said many times "the nation's grandmother" and it's sweet. And it is sad, just like any death I'm not denying that. It's just the saturation of it that I find a little bit excessive. I do think it's a shame, I really do, and it is admirable to queue for 10hrs for someone, I just find it hard to comprehend the need to do it. However, I hold no offensive thoughts or would consider those people stupid or daft - it's their time to do as they please. If this is their way of somehow bonding with the royal family or if she had had an impact of their lives then of course I understand that. However, it just seems to have turned into a bit of a spectacle rather than it being something more meaningful, at least from the frenzy of the press.
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I think you have a good point with that. My take is that we have very little left in this country which brings us together. The royal family is pretty much it, it's british culture. If we don't have a monarchy, there isn't much of anything left.

I'm all for a good party like the weddings and jubilees, and love all the pomp and flag waving. That's maybe why you are seeing 2-3 mile long queues and people waiting 9hrs. They want to be part of something.
 
TheOracle said:
I think you have a good point with that. My take is that we have very little left in this country which brings us together. The royal family is pretty much it, it's british culture. If we don't have a monarchy, there isn't much of anything left.
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WE HAVE OUR DIVERSITY
 
BowdonUK said:
I think for a lot of people its a parasocial relationship.

The Queen being the Monarch as always been a constant in peoples reality. So when a part of their reality ends it changes some people. It seems to have made some emotional who never thought they would be, including many Americans watching on.

It's hard to believe that a person of 70 years old today would have just been born when Elizabeth became Queen.

For many its a link broken to the past, the world war 2 era.
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Yep agree, my mother was 10 months old when Elizabeth became Queen. She was the nations great grand mother and I think many many people feel that loss far more than the expected.
 
ColdAsIce said:
Yea we really need pictures of queuing in a line. Definitely not enough coverage of it on BBC/Main stream media. Everyone has lost the plot.
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I've spent a lot of time watching Slow TV streams, like a cruise ship up the Norwegian coast, or railway journeys. I'm finding this stream to be the ultimate slow TV. I can understand why others will be puzzled though.

If I could, I'd certainly go down to London and show my respect to a Queen and an institution which -- for all its moral complexities -- anchors our society and maybe even our politics in a world of constant, dizzying change. But I can't leave Mum unless I dump her on a care home's doorsteps, so the stream's as close as I'll get. And watching all those people pay their respects is both hugely symbolic and rather moving. To me anyway.
 
Lysander said:
This is what we really need now in the 21st century...

Queue tracker

I hope it doesn't go past my flat :mad:
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Sweet pop into borough market to get some bread and cheese and a pint from the market porter :p
theres a nandos i think a bit further down too then another pint in the anchor
then admire the oxo tower
 
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