Queen Elizabeth II has passed away - keep posts civil and respectful

cheesefest said:
Then you have wall mausoleum walls. Where coffin gets slotted into a niche capped with headstone. Plus smaller ones for interning ashes.

Then have above ground mausoleums. Which look like mini temples.
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This happens in Italy. In fact, some of my wider family have funded the above ground mausoleums (2/3rd cousins)
 
Harlequin said:
Its Prince Consort not King Consort, as neither Philip nor Albert were crowned. However Philip chose not to use Prince Consort and was forever known as Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh. He firmly rejected Winston Churchill when the PM made the suggestion of the change of title.
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Only after the Queen changed the rules. He rejected the title of Prince Consort and would have just gone through life just as the Duke of Edinburgh but the Queen made him a proper Prince in 1957 hence the title Prince Phillip.
 
robgmun said:
She'll no more be queen as Philip was King, i.e No
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Hmm, not really. Philip's position as a non-ruling husband to a Queen was historically very unusual, whereas Camilla will be slotting into the non-ruling role of Queen that most wives of kings adopt. I'm several decades too young to remember but I think people referred to The Queen mother as Queen before her husband died, didn't they?

(Not that British monarchs really rule any more, but you know what I mean)
 
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Mr Jack said:
Hmm, not really. Philip's position as a non-ruling husband to a Queen was historically very unusual, whereas Camilla will be slotting into the non-ruling role of Queen that most wives of kings adopt. I'm several decades too young to remember but I think people referred to The Queen mother as Queen before her husband died, didn't they?
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Yeah she was 'Queen Elizabeth' but restyled herself as 'Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother' to avoid any conflict with Queen Elizabeth II.
 
Mr Jack said:
Hmm, not really. Philip's position as a non-ruling husband to a Queen was historically very unusual, whereas Camilla will be slotting into the non-ruling role of Queen that most wives of kings adopt. I'm several decades too young to remember but I think people referred to The Queen mother as Queen before her husband died, didn't they?
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Her title as I remember it was Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, and it was King George and Queen Elizabeth. Her daughter catapulted over her to be the monarch following King George.
I too am a decade too young as I was born in the same year as the late Queen Elizabeth acceded to the throne
 
cheesefest said:
Glad Boris wasn’t PM now as probably had to give a reading, probably the same one Liz Truss was doing.

He would made a pig’s ear out of it and ruined the service, and, according to the media, the whole day
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According to the media, sure.

Strange they ignore the fact he gave superb tributes to the Queen both in written form and when he spoke in the House of Commons.

Heck, even Harriet Harman warmly praised him on his commons speech when he sat down.
 
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In fairness to him, his commons speech, while it did go on, was probably the most eloquent I've ever heard him. He was also the one to start bringing some levity in to the proceedings I seem to recall, and others subsequently followed (including May).

My only concern was if he would have tried to hog some air time as it were, but these events are usually very tightly controlled and he likely wouldn't have had the freedom to do so.
 
I suspect Boris' speech and his Twitter Post (which came across like a speech) was written for him in expectation that he (as PM) would be the one delivering some of the speech's Truss has done since.
When he has something prepared to say he does come across well, he just totally fails when it comes to any kind of off the cuff stuff and starts babbling or quoting latin....

I will say one thing though, I bet he's thinking that if he had managed to hold on and not resign that this would have quickly seen his behaviour ignored, well until the next "thing" happened!
 
danlightbulb said:
I always thought (from school presumably at some point) that you can have a King and Queen if the King is the sovereign but not if the Queen is sovereign because King is a higher rank.
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There are two kinds of King and Queen: 'Regent' and 'Consort'.

Regent means you're the ruler, Consort means you're the partner of the ruler. However as Kings were traditionally considered above Queens in the slightly sexist past, when you have a Queen the title in the UK was historically changed to 'Prince consort'.
 
One thing i kept looking at all the time in the funeral was how many of them were wearing lots of medals and i wanted to know what each of the medals was for
 
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chrismscotland said:
I suspect Boris' speech and his Twitter Post (which came across like a speech) was written for him in expectation that he (as PM) would be the one delivering some of the speech's Truss has done since.
When he has something prepared to say he does come across well, he just totally fails when it comes to any kind of off the cuff stuff and starts babbling or quoting latin....

I will say one thing though, I bet he's thinking that if he had managed to hold on and not resign that this would have quickly seen his behaviour ignored, well until the next "thing" happened!
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I loved Nicola Sturgeons' memory of Sandy the corgi, chewing the light cable as a puppy, and the Queen told him off!!
 
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