Race report: 'UK not deliberately rigged against ethnic minorities'

Lots of ways - for example Asian American kids do more homework than white and black kids, they tend to perform better in school as a reuslt.

Again, how are you coming to these conclusions? There's plenty of studies out there showing that homework doesn't always have a significant affect in academic achievement. And how does one kid doing more homework prove that it's the parents placing a greater emphasis on education?
 
If proportionally a higher amount of black people commit crime would you also not expect more black people to be stop and searched? Because if you don't then that is astonishing.

The report has a lengthy section on stop and search, setting out some reasons why the figures look as they do.

A large part of the reason is that stop and search is very often used in London (forget the exact figure), which has a higher proportion of ethnic minority people. Inside London, stop and search is concentrated in specific areas, again those might have a higher proportion. Outside London, where fewer ethnic minority people live, stop and search seems less frequently used, so this skews the figures quite a bit.

The report mentions that using national figures can obscure important local details, and recommends taking more notice of geographical distribution. This goes for lots of things, not just crime.

I'm not excusing anything here, just saying you'll probably find that report an interesting read, even if you disagree with its findings.
 
Again, how are you coming to these conclusions? There's plenty of studies out there showing that homework doesn't always have a significant affect in academic achievement. And how does one kid doing more homework prove that it's the parents placing a greater emphasis on education?

It doesn't alone I was just giving you one example. The cultural aspects, expectations for Asians even in poverty have been documented plenty of times, big focus on education and career choice:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ts-succeed-because-its-expected-say-scholars/
That is exactly what they’ve done. And their findings are pretty straightforward: Young Asian Americans have all kinds of good role models to emulate. Their communities and families make sure they get extra help when they need it. Their families, even on limited resources, manage to seek out and move to neighborhoods with good schools. And they aspire to success with specific goals in mind: medicine, law, engineering and pharmacy. And they aim for the best schools.

It’s not about coercion or some mysterious ethnic gift, they write. It’s about the way they view their horizons, with extraordinarily high expectations — so high that kids who don’t rise to the occasion feel like “black sheep” and “outliers.”

Zhou and Lee studied Chinese American and Vietnamese American communities in Los Angeles without a lot of financial resources or parental higher education — factors that tend to skew other academic studies of success. They focused on two groups: the so-called “1.5 generation” — foreign-born immigrants who came to the United States prior to age 13 — and second-generation families. They conducted 82 face-to-face interviews to get a picture of why these communities are doing so well in advancing their children through high school and college.

Here’s what they found: Although their means are limited, Asian families in the study choose neighborhoods carefully to make sure schools offer honors and advanced-placement courses. To do this, parents use the “Chinese Yellow Pages,” which the researchers describe as “a two-inch thick, 1,500-page long telephone directory that is published annually and lists ethnic businesses in Southern California, as well as the rankings of the region’s public high schools and the nation’s best universities.” They also make sure their kids get plenty of supplementary help such as tutoring.

These families have incredibly high standards, according to the study. If kids come home with a 3.5 grade-point average, parents are disappointed that it’s not 4.0 — and they show it.

It isn't really hard to see how a kid in a family where their parents have a focus on education, try to get them into a good school, make them do more homework, have high expectations re: grades etc.. is going to be a bit of a different environment (even if poor) than some parents (or single parent) who doesn't care much about school choice, is rather blase about making their kid(s) do homework etc.. not interested in what grades they got etc..
 
If I genuinely wanted to get a good report going I would hire someone with a significant backing and expertise in the field who was well respected by their peers.

Prof Kehinde Andrews has said "it isn't a genuine effort to understand racism in Britain". It's complete nonsense. It goes in the face of all the actual existing evidence. This is not a genuine effort to understand racism in Britain. This is a PR move to pretend the problem doesn't exist".
Do you honestly believe someone whose entire career relies on something existing will be an 'independent source' in determining whether that something exists?

It's like asking Priests to do an independent report on whether God exists because they're experts in the matter.

If they were to investigate it, do you really think they'd come to the conclusion that God doesn't exist? Because if they did they're making themselves redundant. If Kehinde Andrews did a report on institutional racism and found it didn't exist he'd be out of a job and a career. He's not going to do it. They are not independent. These people, who created this report, of varying creeds and cultures are far more independent than people whose career depends on a shaky premise.

In this analogy you're an acolyte who laps up anything preached by your 'leader' and you somehow think they're unbiased or have no vested interests in what it is they preach. You, like billions of others, are being duped.
 
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If I genuinely wanted to get a good report going I would hire someone with a significant backing and expertise in the field who was well respected by their peers.

Prof Kehinde Andrews has said "it isn't a genuine effort to understand racism in Britain". It's complete nonsense. It goes in the face of all the actual existing evidence. This is not a genuine effort to understand racism in Britain. This is a PR move to pretend the problem doesn't exist".

umm

https://twitter.com/lefoudubaron/status/1377569066735579136
 
The practical mind:
We’ve analysed the stats and resources are best distributed in these areas to maximise results.

The emotional mind:
That’s cruel and unfair!

Once you notice the same half dozen or so lefty femoids in every thread like this it’s hard to unsee. The emotional mind wants to mother minorities, because it sees them as helpless children.
 
Click the link within the tweet. Tells you all about the experts in their field that you of course dismissed. You pre-made your opinion on the report before you read it.

Nice mature discussion you're able to have. Yet again just running around calling people racist. How civilized.

the authors of the article have already long been discussed, have you even read this thread?
 
Nice mature discussion you're able to have. Yet again just running around calling people racist. How civilized.

But thats the way it works, unless you agree that the report is wrong - you are racist.

Waste of time arguing.

Its more about BLAME than BAME.
 
Click the link within the tweet. Tells you all about the experts in their field that you of course dismissed. You pre-made your opinion on the report before you read it.

Nice mature discussion you're able to have. Yet again just running around calling people racist. How civilized.
The femoids call it Multiracial Whiteness, which is a vaguely intellectual-sounding version of Uncle Tom.
 
The practical mind:
We’ve analysed the stats and resources are best distributed in these areas to maximise results.

The emotional mind:
That’s cruel and unfair!

Once you notice the same half dozen or so lefty femoids in every thread like this it’s hard to unsee. The emotional mind wants to mother minorities, because it sees them as helpless children.

Which in itself is racist because they're assuming minorities (non-whites) have the mental faculties of children who need caring for by superiors/responsible adults (ie. them). The real liberals (actual supporters of individual freedom/liberty) just desire to see everyone treated by the same rules regardless of anything but they're smeared as uncaring monsters.

It's like in the US I believe one of the main arguments against Voter ID trotted out by Democrats is that blacks don't tend to have any and won't be able or willing to fill a few forms in to get it, the argument works because most people just see the obvious of them caring for blacks rather than looking a bit deeper and seeing what it reveals about the way the Democrats view them.
 
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You're still doing it. The reason black people are overrepresented in crime stats has nothing to do with their race, and everything to do with them being overrepresented in socioeconomic groups that do provide a causative effect on the likelihood of criminal behaviour. When you adjust for those factors, any link to ethnicity goes away.

So to blame a whole race for unrelated criminality of individuals within it is most definitely racist.
Seems to me you are making excuses for criminal behaviour well im poor so i have a right to go and nick things.
 
Do you honestly believe someone whose entire career relies on something existing will be an 'independent source' in determining whether that something exists?

It's like asking Priests to do an independent report on whether God exists because they're experts in the matter.

If they were to investigate it, do you really think they'd come to the conclusion that God doesn't exist? Because if they did they're making themselves redundant. If Kehinde Andrews did a report on institutional racism and found it didn't exist he'd be out of a job and a career. He's not going to do it. They are not independent. These people, who created this report, of varying creeds and cultures are far more independent than people whose career depends on a shaky premise.

In this analogy you're an acolyte who laps up anything preached by your 'leader' and you somehow think they're unbiased or have no vested interests in what it is they preach. You, like billions of others, are being duped.
Kehinde Andrews is one of the biggest race baiting grifters going its how he makes his money i bet he wakes up every morning thinking right what can i say to get me on telly today i know ill say Florence nightingale was a racist that will wind them up and put some cash in my pocket.
 
Seems to me you are making excuses for criminal behaviour well im poor so i have a right to go and nick things.

No, it about understanding, not excusing. Much like noting the link between irrational intolerant attitudes, low education and low iq isn't about excusing bigotry, just acknowledging the common drivers of it.
 
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