Racist! Really?
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I thought the cartoon was quite well done.
Didn’t these old style cartoons over exaggerate everything in the character, he’s drew a woman who has a stronger frame than most men a little larger than she really is and now it’s racism?
Didn’t these old style cartoons over exaggerate everything in the character, he’s drew a woman who has a stronger frame than most men a little larger than she really is and now it’s racism?
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Play along with GD, win a cookie.
But Muslim rape gangs aren't a conspiracy? They happened and there were many victims.
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Do you believe a cartoon or joke that has mild racist connotations cannot be amusing? To what level of kid glove treatment do people of different races need to be handled these days?
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If you google images Theresa May caricature there are loads where she has a big hook nose. How long before someone claims they are anti semetic for portraying a cartoon style big jewish nose....(Similar to the propaganda posters Germany produced during ww2).
It's a ******* cartoon, my god, there is worse things in the world for people to get offended over.
She was acting a total **** anyway, and tried to blame it on sexism being a bigger **** after, she got spanked by a younger player and lost her cool and umpire followed the rules whether harsh or not he did it by the book.
The only odd thing about the cartoon is portray osaka completely wrong
She was acting a total **** anyway, and tried to blame it on sexism being a bigger **** after, she got spanked by a younger player and lost her cool and umpire followed the rules whether harsh or not he did it by the book.
The only odd thing about the cartoon is portray osaka completely wrong
#GreeninklivesmatterAs someone who identifies as green ink, I find this offensive. I refuse to be blue washed!!!
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I only see a cartoon of a black woman, with negro features exaggerated, thick lips, maybe red with lipstick to reinforce that she’s female, fuzzy or curly hair, a typical caricature.
I was politely pointing out that as far as I could tell, YOU were the one who introduced the word gorilla, which, as you’re saying the cartoon IS racist, may not have been wise.
Now, to quote you verbatim, you’ve typed, “cartoon of a black woman that looks like a gorilla.”
Note, I said, cartoon of a black woman, features exaggerated, NOT cartoon of a black woman that looks like a gorilla.
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The opponent isn't the subject of the cartoon.
I never claimed it wasn't. Old racist cartoons had an element of truth to them in so far as they picked up on some features of (some) black people. Serena happens to have certain features that might well overlap. Like I said already I think the lips are a bit of a contentious area, fact is though she is a big woman, she does have messy hair, she does have a flat nose, she is black and she did have a tantrum. He's drawn a cartoon in his usual style, I think if he made an exception because she was black then he'd be engaging in a form of soft racism.
In context she threw a hissy fit and that is the reason for the cartoon, it isn't a general attack on black people or on women. People are so keen to be outraged about anything and everything these days but context and intent matter. Ignoring contect and intent and voicing some outrage simply because it seems to share some similarity with something racist doesn't make it racist. It is the same tiresome knee jerk reaction from SJWs that people are getting bored of, in fact I'd say this tendency for SJWs to call so many things "racist", "facist" etc... just lessens the impact when actual racism deserves to be called out.
Leftists are the most hyper sensitive, dumbest individuals on the face of the earth. They are completely and utterly consumed by identity politics, and have managed to water down the word racist so much, no one knows what the true definition is. You can't even say "monkeying this up" any more, because when they hear the word monkey, the first thing they think of is a black person 
If you keep hearing racist dog whistles, guess what? You're listening for them...
And the only thing wrong with this caricature of Serena Williams is that it's an accurate caricature of Serena Williams and somehow this is "racist". Give me a break
If you keep hearing racist dog whistles, guess what? You're listening for them...And the only thing wrong with this caricature of Serena Williams is that it's an accurate caricature of Serena Williams and somehow this is "racist". Give me a break
Truth is we will never know whether it truly did have intentional racist connotations or not. Only the artists knows that.
I can see why it has drawn criticism. For a start it isn't even a proper caricature- it has depicted her as a very fat old woman, which is just odd as she is a 36 year old strong muscular athlete. The comparisons with said controversial Sambo cartoons are fair. Also, the choice to make her opponent a skinny white blonde woman is also interesting considering her opponent in the match was also black and quite muscular.
However, we don't know if any of those things were done to be intentionally racist so i wouldn't be overly harsh on the artist.
Personally i think it is pretty insensitive/tone deaf ( in a metaphorical sense) and a **** poor job at a caricature
Soldato
About as racist as the referee is sexist.
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I know it's how it looks at first glance, but:
While she certainly isn't white, she does have a blonde pony tail.
Personally, I think people are reading far too much into her depiction. The point of her part in the picture is that she essentially became just some girl in the background due to Serena's behaviour.
So I just did this:
Using the colour grabber tool. I took multiple samples from Serena as she is 'front and centre' and so her skin tone has more detail due to lighting, I took samples from both light and dark points on the cartoon. Osaka's skin tone is depicted more monochromatically.
Has Osaka been white washed? Or more likely is it something to do with grey/grey contrast? Idk. Colour disparities don't look that different. But quite clearly the 'white' umpire has a different skin tone to both serena and Osaka.
As for Osaka being blonde, she has blonde highlights on her pony tail sticking out of her cap, which is exactly what is depicted in the cartoon.
See here: https://www.sbnation.com/tennis/201...2018-womens-title-naomi-osaka-serena-williams
Also as for her lips looking big, do they actually look that big? I think the big tongue makes them look bigger than they are tbh.
Yes i have seen the ridiculous post with the colour swatches
He has clearly drawn a stick thin white blonde woman. If his intention was to draw anything else, then he is an absolutely terrible artist and should be fired.